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How scarce are 1986 Silver Eagles in PCGS Rattler slabs?

braddickbraddick Posts: 24,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Is there anyway to determine the difficulty of finding a silver eagle in a rattler? It would have to be a 1986 as I don't think rattler holders were used much past late 1989. . . and coupled with the expense of slabbing back when PCGS opened their doors, can't imagine too many collectors or dealers would bother sending in bullion coins (even the proofs).

It would be fun to determine how many were slabbed, first year silver eagles!
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does the S stand for smokey?image



    Did they have POP reports in 1986?
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bought one a while back, can't recall why - just thought it was cool. Maybe PCGS had a promotion going and it wasn't too expensive??



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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting to see the significant differences in the labels.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Lakesammman

    Interesting to see the significant differences in the labels.




    Was PCGS promoting rattler holders too?



    Why are the coin numbers different for the 2 slabs pictured? The coin number for both cert numbers 7050296 and 2056306 is 9802 DCAM.
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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was wondering the same thing.

    I would guess they're fairly scarce items in rattlers.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tim, I think yours may be a second generation of the first generation. with the exception of only a few differences, most of the slab "varieties" are really just insert varieties and the one you posted seems to have been re-arranged to be more sensible and pleasing to the eye.
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,511 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The first one (braddick) PCGS No 09641 does not show up...PCGS CoinFacts Page





    http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/9641





    Certification Number;

    http://www.pcgs.com/cert/7050296





    The second one (Lakesammman) PCGS No. 09680 shows up as the 1994-D 50C World Cup





    http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/9680





    Certification Number;

    http://www.pcgs.com/cert/2056306





    Weird...image





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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oih82w8: Now that's really interesting!



    Keeps: Another generation of rattler?? Great - right up my alley! image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had one awhile back
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: oih82w8

    The first one (braddick) PCGS No 09641 does not show up...PCGS CoinFacts Page





    http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/9641





    Certification Number;

    http://www.pcgs.com/cert/7050296





    The second one (Lakesammman) PCGS No. 09680 shows up as the 1994-D 50C World Cup





    http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/9680





    Certification Number;

    http://www.pcgs.com/cert/2056306





    Weird...image





    I originally had them turned around...it should be good to go now.






    They both show different POP numbers too.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No rattlers.... at least I do not think so... have a few '86's...raw and slabbed. Will have to

    check...Cheers, RickO
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This one at Heritage looks like it came from the same roll as yours. I didn't see many Rattlers doing a quick scan over there of your date.

    Heritage Eagle Rattler:
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313



    This one at Heritage looks like it came from the same roll as yours. I didn't see many Rattlers doing a quick scan over there of your date.



    Heritage Eagle Rattler:




    There was a run of 1986-S proofs from 7050296 to 7050338
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  • csanotescsanotes Posts: 472 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BAJJERFAN
    Originally posted by: Wabbit2313

    This one at Heritage looks like it came from the same roll as yours. I didn't see many Rattlers doing a quick scan over there of your date.

    Heritage Eagle Rattler:


    There was a run of 1986-S proofs from 7050296 to 7050338


    After reading this thread I checked through an album of some slab images I have. I have one 1986-S Proof in a rattler with the cert # of 7050283. As far as how scarce they are?--surely not as easy as a Morgan Dollar or Mercury Dime to find in a rattler, but I see probably half a dozen show up on ebay per year.

    Chance favors the prepared mind.

  • AblinkyAblinky Posts: 628 ✭✭✭
    Not sure about SAE's but I have a friend who had found a PR $5 Statue of Liberty Commem in a rattler.

    Andrew Blinkiewicz-Heritage

  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭✭✭




    A June 1, 1989 (I think all were still rattlers then) population report I have shows the following for the Proof 1986:



    65 = 8

    66 = 6

    67 = 49

    68 = 129

    69 = 61

    70 = 0



    By then there were about 1200 to 1300 total moderns graded that took up little more than one page. The 1986-S Proof Silver Eagle had the highest population followed by the MS version. I think it was only about 6 months later that the rattler ended.





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  • CuKevinCuKevin Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭✭
    I have seen a few and some other coins you wouldn't expect. Such as the PR $5 Statue of Liberty Commem Ablinky mentioned above.
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1986 eagles in rattlers aren't nearly as scarce as the other dates which are possible for the rattlers: 1987, 1988 and especially 1989.

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