Can I call this an OBW roll ?

Gerard

I want to sell this roll and want to know if it
classifies as an OBW roll.
One concern I have is there is no
bank stamp on the roll.

Here are some pics.



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rmpsrpms

Looks like it could be original. I give it 70% chance. Since it is better than 50:50 I'd call it original.

TopographicOceans

Originally posted by: rmpsrpms
Looks like it could be original. I give it 70% chance. Since it is better than 50:50 I'd call it original.

SurfinxHI

Looks like it has been opened (albeit carefully) to me. It might be bank wrapped.

mariner67

Looks origional but agree...appears to have been opened.

halfhunter

Looks all there to me . . . PM sent.



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Bochiman

I would.



What I think some people see and think is the roll having been opened, may also just be wear and tear from storage. Or, someone may have tried to see more of the top coin.



From the pics, I wouldn't think it had been heavily abused of being opened, all coins removed, all coins replaced, and rolled back up.



Sometimes, there are just too many that believe the worst.



Now, if someone says there is a 1853 half sticking out of the other end....

WoodenJefferson

See that nice even 'crimp' from the automated rolling machine on the tail end coin? Now look at the heads coin and examine the 'crimp' It's been tampered with.

TwoSides2aCoin

I'd gladly buy it using the Grey Sheet nomenclature: "BU ROLL".

LindeDad

Did you get it from a Bank?

messydesk

Those can be opened and re-crimped, and I would expect that was the case here.

bronco2078

Definitely opened , go order a box of halfs from a bank and they all will look like that on one end .

SamByrd

no way would I buy that as a OBW roll.

Sell it as it is shown and perhaps even open the roll the value of these is not what it was and many will buy based on what they see. Easy to sell but not a great premium unless the roll has some better coins mixed in.

TwoSides2aCoin

Without seeing and knowing first hand, maybe sell it as a potentially favorable roll of new coins that offer a possible gem or two. I think wording (OBW ), and embellishing is tough to do with such an item. A bit of a quagmire for selling.

IwasAgentjim007

I think one end gets crimped before filling the roll and the other after. That's why the ends are not an exact match. Looks OBW to me.

bestday

Originally posted by: SamByrd
no way would I buy that as a OBW roll.

Sell it as it is shown and perhaps even open the roll the value of these is not what it was and many will buy based on what they see. Easy to sell but not a great premium unless the roll has some better coins mixed in.

No toning on end coins

keets

whenever I get rolls from the bank in these kind of wrappers the two ends look alike. even an older roll wouldn't look like that on only one end from handling, right?? I suspect it has been opened, searched and re-rolled.

IwasAgentjim007

This is a completed auction of an original roll that was a consignment from a member here. The owner had over 100 rolls all from an original bag passed down in his family. I bought one of these rolls. Completely original and a worse crimped edge that this Franklin roll. Maybe the owner went through every roll. Maybe Oswald acted along. The degree of toning is based on storage conditions.



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ricko

The one end is not a bank crimped roll.... whether fully opened or not, it is not as originally sealed. Cheers, RickO

jmski52

Maybe it depends on where the roll originated, but I don't remember that type of wrapper being around in the 1960's. The guy to ask would be Wayne Herndon.

bestday

Originally posted by: IwasAgentjim007
This is a completed auction of an original roll that was a consignment from a member here. The owner had over 100 rolls all from an original bag passed down in his family. I bought one of these rolls. Completely original and a worse crimped edge that this Franklin roll. Maybe the owner went through every roll. Maybe Oswald acted along. The degree of toning is based on storage conditions.

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No doubt... but maybe roll was opened before family member bought them

Wabbit2313

You can call it anything you want, it's yours. We don't have to believe you, and that makes the world go round and round. (And the wheels on the Bus.)

hchcoin

Originally posted by: IwasAgentjim007
This is a completed auction of an original roll that was a consignment from a member here. The owner had over 100 rolls all from an original bag passed down in his family. I bought one of these rolls. Completely original and a worse crimped edge that this Franklin roll. Maybe the owner went through every roll. Maybe Oswald acted along. The degree of toning is based on storage conditions.

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Cool roll! Did you open it?

derryb

Only the person who originally got a bank roll from the bank is fully qualified to call it an OBW. Any subsequent seller is relying on second hand information that may be fact or may be fiction. Subsequent sellers should use the description "appears to be an OBW."

ebaybuyer

"Only the person who originally got a bank roll from the bank is fully qualified to call it an OBW" ..... that's assuming its never been opened and returned to the bank. there is NO way to be certain a roll has never been opened. even the machine wrapped rolls can be opened and re-crimped.

LindeDad

Originally posted by: derryb

Only the person who originally got a bank roll from the bank is fully qualified to call it an OBW. Any subsequent seller is relying on second hand information that may be fact or may be fiction. Subsequent sellers should use the description "appears to be an OBW."

Bingo we have a winner.