The Dead Roosevelt Dimes...

joeykoins

Hi guys, I got this idea from TopographicOcean's thread. I have a feeling this topic was brought up before, I'm sure. But the Roosevelt Dimes need an awakening. They are dead in collecting because no interest and no certain variety/error in the series. What do you guys think the Dimes need for a sudden interest in collecting? Just as the Mercury Dimes did. I think, maybe the Mint should redesign the Dime to the Mercury look. How 'bout you? Thanks in advance.-joey

DIMEMAN

Originally posted by: joeykoins
Hi guys, I got this idea from TopographicOcean's thread. The Roosevelt Dimes need an awakening. They are dead in collecting because no certain variety/error in the series. What do you guys think the Dimes need for a sudden interest in collecting? Just as the Mercury Dimes did. I think, maybe the Mint should redesign the Dime to the Mercury look. How 'bout you? Thanks in advance.-joey

What do you mean "no variety/error"??!! There are a ton of varieties in the series! I have yet to find them all!

oih82w8

Oh boy...here we go.

joebb21

Every date and mintmark are easily available buy the roll.

Building such a collection is not necessarily tough and therefor not as much fun in my opinion to collect.

Merc dimes take more time and effort

segoja

They are tough with nice color and in high grade.

Even tougher when you add full bands.

We have had some super examples come thru QA Check. Let me tell you those are fun coins to review and sticker the solid quality ones.

cmerlo1

There are many, many easy-to-see, rare, and marketable varieties in the series.

JCMhouston

Unfortunately it's just not a very exciting series to most people, the design is just kind of blah (to many people, no offense to those who like them).

keyman64

Yup, no one wants these darn things. It makes me cry.







Posting in good fun...you just have to find the right niche.

Lots of great business strike examples out there but here are a few proofs.



"SWAMP POX"

























Yet to be crossed...bad through-the-slab photos, I know.

joeykoins

Greg, Those are awesome Roosys. These are an exception to the rule. To me, only "Toned" Dimes bring interest to me personally. As a matter of fact, I once found a beautiful specimen of a toned proof dime at a coin shop. The 1995 PR. Silver, I think I paid $2.00? I sent it in to our host and I sold it for $100 bucks! Sorry, other than these sort of toned Dimes, I'm not interested.

keyman64

Thanks. I agree with you. They are not my ideal coin to collect but with budget constraints, I

decided to see what I could do with a toned 1950-1964 proof set. Sometimes you can find

them cheap (in line with the budget) and sometimes you can't. It makes a couple of series

that are not necessarily very appealing just a little more appealing. Previously, I worked on

Mercury Dime Varieties, many of which I was able to Cherrypick in top pop or close. Here

again, it was a budget thing. When you pick the right niche, you are frequently able to ignore

the normal swings of the average coin market when it comes time to sell. Common, blast

white/normal/look the same as all the other coins, even in some higher grades, will be tough

to move. I try not to collect that in any series as I am not interested in losing 10% to 50%

of my money one day. These days, it has to be a variety or toner bought right.

joeykoins

I like your 1959 with the blue and dash of red in his hair. It reminds me of these kids nowadays. Dyeing their hair.

291fifth

In the final analysis, they are all just common moderns. The series is dead and is going to stay that way.

koynekwest

Originally posted by: cmerlo1

There are many, many easy-to-see, rare, and marketable varieties in the series.

Absolutely! Tons of huge doubled dies for one thing. And don't forget the missing Mint mark coins. The variety segment of the series is quite alive.

johnny9434

R.I.P.

ElmerFusterpuck

This series probably could use a boost, but at least it's doable. I lean towards the silver issues and am trying to complete a set all in PCGS MS-67:



My MS-67 Roosies



Yes, they are all white, but I'm trying for a matched set. I do have toned pieces too, but not trying for a set of those at this time.



To 291fifth: is there *any* coin series you do like? Most of your posts are such downers, makes me wonder why you even bother collecting anything.

keyman64

Originally posted by: koynekwest

Originally posted by: cmerlo1

There are many, many easy-to-see, rare, and marketable varieties in the series.

Absolutely! Tons of huge doubled dies for one thing. And don't forget the missing Mint mark coins. The variety segment of the series is quite alive.

Don't forget about the missing designer initials of the 1954-S. I've Cherrypicked one.

keyman64

Originally posted by: ElmerFusterpuck

This series probably could use a boost, but at least it's doable. I lean towards the silver issues and am trying to complete a set all in PCGS MS-67:



My MS-67 Roosies



Yes, they are all white, but I'm trying for a matched set. I do have toned pieces too, but not trying for a set of those at this time.



To 291fifth: is there *any* coin series you do like? Most of your posts are such downers, makes me wonder why you even bother collecting anything.

Linky no worky.

291fifth

Originally posted by: ElmerFusterpuck
This series probably could use a boost, but at least it's doable. I lean towards the silver issues and am trying to complete a set all in PCGS MS-67:

My MS-67 Roosies

Yes, they are all white, but I'm trying for a matched set. I do have toned pieces too, but not trying for a set of those at this time.

To 291fifth: is there *any* coin series you do like? Most of your posts are such downers, makes me wonder why you even bother collecting anything.

I don't wear rose colored glasses. In actual point of fact, I no longer collect coins at all, having stopped three years ago. I now collect knowledge. I feel that collectors need to tighten their standards on everything and avoid "one-way markets". Many people like to promote minor varieties but how many will actually pay premiums for them themselves?

cladking

Originally posted by: 291fifth

In the final analysis, they are all just common moderns. The series is dead and is going to stay that way.

Some of the greatest coins with the greatest stories just happen to be Roosies and some of them are scarce or rare. The series is certain to wake upeventually. Just in the clads there's the mint set D/ D 1969 issue. There's the 75 No-S proof that apparent has a mintage of 2 (but of course there are milliuons of coins yet to be checked ). There are the other no-S proofs and even a 1982 issue sans mint mark. There's even the low mintage 1996-W issue. Don't forget the '92 to date silvers and the 1965 silver quarters. There are probably a handfull of 1965 proof issues and certainly"many" that look like frosted proofs.



The dimes have a great deal to offer and there are some significant scarcities. Most of the clad is fairly tough in Gem but the regular issues are available enough they might remain in reach of average collectors even if they get hot. This means the entire series will probably remain highly collectable almost indefinitely. This can't be said of any other modern series because they all have stoppers.

dcarr

Well, I can say with confidence that this didn't exactly light a fire under them.
Only 248 over-struck and priced at $25 (bulk handled) or $50 (high grade):


Although recent eBay re-sales have realized about $35 (bulk handled) and $60 (high grade).

Roosevelt isn't my favorite coin or President. But at least the coins are better than zinc Lincolns.

dcarr

PS:
I wouldn't mind having a 1965 silver Roosevelt.

grip

Originally posted by: 291fifth
In the final analysis, they are all just common moderns. The series is dead and is going to stay that way.

you may be right. Boring design without toning

FullStrike

If the Hunt Brothers are still around.

Maybe someone could get them to try to corner the market in Silver Roosevelts.

That would really pump up the volume.

mannie gray

Originally posted by: cladking

Originally posted by: 291fifth

In the final analysis, they are all just common moderns. The series is dead and is going to stay that way.

Some of the greatest coins with the greatest stories just happen to be Roosies and some of them are scarce or rare. The series is certain to wake upeventually. Just in the clads there's the mint set D/ D 1969 issue. There's the 75 No-S proof that apparent has a mintage of 2 (but of course there are milliuons of coins yet to be checked ). There are the other no-S proofs and even a 1982 issue sans mint mark. There's even the low mintage 1996-W issue. Don't forget the '92 to date silvers and the 1965 silver quarters. There are probably a handfull of 1965 proof issues and certainly"many" that look like frosted proofs.



The dimes have a great deal to offer and there are some significant scarcities. Most of the clad is fairly tough in Gem but the regular issues are available enough they might remain in reach of average collectors even if they get hot. This means the entire series will probably remain highly collectable almost indefinitely. This can't be said of any other modern series because they all have stoppers.

I agree with you.

mirabela

The design just stinks. I'd be thrilled to see a return to allegorical Liberty on our coinage, but in the meantime -- there are some surprisingly tough issues to find well struck and nice in the clads, and anybody who has gem rolls of 82's and 83's around ought to see a good return on that ... someday ...

windwhispersintrees

You know why I didn't like this series as a kid collecting from circulation? Nothing older than the McDonald's line (1965...aka Billions and Billions served/made). Worn out 60s clad. No hope of finding any errors except the 1982 no P. No chance of finding any S mintmarks. Small coin difficult to really get into the details.
I went with Jeffersons...cause I always had at least of chance finding something from '38 when my Dad was a kid, or perhaps silver WWII nickel. It was always cool to find something from the 1940s too, when everything else was new.
Lincolns were hopeful too....still was a chance of getting a wheatie, or a 1960 small date, or 72 doubled die. Then there was the intro of the zincolns, though the series turns me off more now as I see those rotting bubbly zinc cents in circulation.
Quarters were appealing too, though even finding older than 1965 was hopeless. Biggest coin in change, easy to see details...was a nice challenge in the late 70s early 80s trying to find high grade 60s quarters in circulation.

As an adult, my Roosie prejudices remain. I don't want to pay now to collect what didn't interest me in the past.

oih82w8

Clad Variety (No P) Rooseys can have some nice tone too, although not as colorful.

ambro51

It IS odd. You find a 50 year old dime in circulation and it's nothing. Think back to your days as a kid collector in 1966 and you find a Barber dime. Different story, eh?? Part of the problem no doubt is our old eyes can't read the teeny date. Clanking IS right though, prime examples are thin on the ground. Old roll hoards probably were dumped years ago. I see these new pieces that are truly spectacular in brilliance and detail. Worth every bit of ten cents (today). No doubt 100 years from now it will be a different story, and Roosevelt dimes may be a hot item. The design will change once all the WW2 era citizens die off. We today forget just how GREAT this man was to his generation. Would Wendell Wilkie have pulled us out of the Depression and best the s*** out of Adolf??

mr1931S

Dealers will tell you to collect coins which are not hot for then you can get the coins for the lowest prices from them thereby positioning yourself for the best return when comes time to sell.

AstroJoe

How about a change back to the Bust Type or Seated Type. How about on all modern coinage? Just a thought....

TopographicOceans

I agree with the OP on two points:

TopographicOceans invokes great ideas and the dime should be replaced

Stooge

I've got a great idea...lets all collect the same coin. BORING!

I'm super thrilled that no-one likes or wants to collect Roosevelt Dimes. It keeps them well stocked in inventories and keeps the prices down.

In a decade or 2 when I've managed to collect toned and blast white examples in high grade that number into the hundreds, only then will I be happy to see prices go up and interest return.

onlyroosies

I think all of you should stay away from the series. it's an ugly design, very plentiful and no collector base. Once you get over a pop of 3 it's considered a common
date. Just send all you have to me and I will make sure they get properly disposed of.

joeykoins

This is what I'm saying, only the Toned Roosies are alive and alluring! Those are attractive, I must say.

koynekwest

Originally posted by: keyman64

Originally posted by: koynekwest

Originally posted by: cmerlo1

There are many, many easy-to-see, rare, and marketable varieties in the series.

Absolutely! Tons of huge doubled dies for one thing. And don't forget the missing Mint mark coins. The variety segment of the series is quite alive.

Don't forget about the missing designer initials of the 1954-S. I've Cherrypicked one.

I have half a dozen-one an NGC slabbed MS66 FT. These often come with blast luster.

keyman64

Well done, onlyroosies!

rainbowroosie

I don't like toned coins especially Roosies. Real collectors only buy white brilliant uncirculated coins. If you are buying toned Roosies stop right now. That Nick guy doesn't know anything about Roosies. Don't be fooled and certainly never pay more than bid for a toned coin.


Damn, I'm early for April Fools Day.

keyman64

Originally posted by: rainbowroosie

I don't like toned coins especially Roosies. Real collectors only buy white brilliant uncirculated coins. If you are buying toned Roosies stop right now. That Nick guy doesn't know anything about Roosies. Don't be fooled and certainly never pay more than bid for a toned coin.

Rainbow in your forum name must refer to your colorful personality and

sense of humor. I understand now.

BillJones

The dime is too small to host a really great design. Also as inflation gets worse, the dime, like nickel and cent has very little buying power.

Yes, old dimes and nicely toned dimes are nice, but a lot of collectors don't think much of them because "bigger is better."

Reviving interest in the dime is going to be hard.

3Legs

I personally think the classic designs should be left dead. Whenever they resurrect something from the past it seems hokey.

cladking

Originally posted by: BillJones

The dime is too small to host a really great design. Also as inflation gets worse, the dime, like nickel and cent has very little buying power.



Yes, old dimes and nicely toned dimes are nice, but a lot of collectors don't think much of them because "bigger is better."



Reviving interest in the dime is going to be hard.

Few people find the dime very inspiring. It's just too small and most of we older collectors need a magnifier just to grade them. But younger folks can put them right up by their eye and see the date.



They look as big as a Morgan up by your eye.



Maybe Roosies are a younger man's hobby.

joeykoins

You can now refer the Roosies as the "Eye Chart Coin".

david3142

I was reading through this thread just waiting for Nick to show up, and boy did he ever! That 47-S is unreal! You have my contact info.

The 82 no-P was one I always hoped to find in circulation, like the 84 doubled ear cent. No luck with either, sadly.

This thread needs more pictures. How about a clad toner?



NGC MS67*

asheland

Originally posted by: oih82w8
Oh boy...here we go.

asheland

joeykoins

I just had a thought from seeing all these "toned Roosys"? The mint should stamp out a few million of the Roosevelt Dimes, place them aside. Even for a few years, so when they turn to the beautiful Toning, then distribute in circulation! I know, we'll then face a few problems. Number one is what year should be stamped on the coins so they can tone? Also, I know some people dislike the toned coin. Would it even be legal to produce any coins before the actual year? Crazy idea, huh? At least it would generate a spark in the series!

leothelyon

Originally posted by: joeykoins
Hi guys, I got this idea from TopographicOcean's thread. I have a feeling this topic was brought up before, I'm sure. But the Roosevelt Dimes need an awakening. They are dead in collecting because no interest and no certain variety/error in the series. What do you guys think the Dimes need for a sudden interest in collecting? Just as the Mercury Dimes did. I think, maybe the Mint should redesign the Dime to the Mercury look. How 'bout you? Thanks in advance.-joey

And.....how long have you been collecting Roosevelt dimes?

georgiacop50

Originally posted by: onlyroosies

I think all of you should stay away from the series. it's an ugly design, very plentiful and no collector base. Once you get over a pop of 3 it's considered a common

date. Just send all you have to me and I will make sure they get properly disposed of.

IS THAT ALL YOU GOT?!

DIMEMAN

Originally posted by: 3Legs
I personally think the classic designs should be left dead. Whenever they resurrect something from the past it seems hokey.

I totally agree......just look at the silver eagle!

joeykoins

Originally posted by: leothelyon

Originally posted by: joeykoins
Hi guys, I got this idea from TopographicOcean's thread. I have a feeling this topic was brought up before, I'm sure. But the Roosevelt Dimes need an awakening. They are dead in collecting because no interest and no certain variety/error in the series. What do you guys think the Dimes need for a sudden interest in collecting? Just as the Mercury Dimes did. I think, maybe the Mint should redesign the Dime to the Mercury look. How 'bout you? Thanks in advance.-joey

And.....how long have you been collecting Roosevelt dimes?

To answer your question, I never started to collect them. Only the Mercs.

leothelyon

Originally posted by: joeykoins

Originally posted by: leothelyon

Originally posted by: joeykoins
Hi guys, I got this idea from TopographicOcean's thread. I have a feeling this topic was brought up before, I'm sure. But the Roosevelt Dimes need an awakening. They are dead in collecting because no interest and no certain variety/error in the series. What do you guys think the Dimes need for a sudden interest in collecting? Just as the Mercury Dimes did. I think, maybe the Mint should redesign the Dime to the Mercury look. How 'bout you? Thanks in advance.-joey

And.....how long have you been collecting Roosevelt dimes?

To answer your question, I never started to collect them. Only the Mercs.

Do you think this may be the reason why you think the Roosevelt Dimes need an awakening? I have dabbed into them a little but not to the extent to where I have located some extremely HG examples.....not like I have with Jefferson nickels. I'm guessing you have some super nice Mercs. If true, you would be the goto guy for any YN or anyone starting out to understand the market with that series, correct?


Leo