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My Gradual Transition to Early Gold...

ProofmorganProofmorgan Posts: 762 ✭✭✭✭✭
My collecting has been all over the place since I started seriously collecting about 3 years ago. I went from various type coins, to proof type, to proof morgans, to OGH Commems, and now I've settled on Early Gold that has amazing eye appeal and is completely original. I couldn't have done it without the help of a dealer or two and a couple of very helpful forum members. I have more on the way so stay tuned in the coming months.

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Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.

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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow - great coins.
  • CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭
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  • AmazonXAmazonX Posts: 680 ✭✭✭✭
    image Wow beautiful coins. Personally, I think early gold is the way to go.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gorgeous early gold.



    ryk will certainly chime in soon.
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One thing I can say is that you've never collected anything but classy coins with true rarity. Old, dirty gold is a great thing to collect, but the really original pieces are just so few and far between that I never went down that road.
  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations. You will find the pursuit of quality early gold with exceptional eye appeal both very challenging and rewarding. Judging by the three coins you have already, you know what to look for. Those are very nice looking examples.

    'dude
    Got Crust....y gold?
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,819 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like.



    All three are incredible and would be welcome at my place anytime.
  • dogwooddogwood Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭
    So is the 1805 $5 piece more desirable in a 40 OGH Gold CAC?
    Or in a 50 grade holder that'd probably still get a green CAC, where it would look right at home.
    Rhetorical, of course.
    What a great coin, in a wonderful group.
    We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great coins and nice to see my old friends in a good home
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    By the way, that 1805 is a 55
  • JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice indeed. Congrats!

    Joseph J. Singleton - First Superintendent of the U.S. Branch Mint in Dahlonega Georgia

    Findley Ridge Collection
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very impressive coins!
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    If that 1847D looks like the pic in hand it is amazing!
  • earlyAurumearlyAurum Posts: 743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice coins. Can't wait to see the rest. Early gold is my fav
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats as I really like the ex Parkyakarkus and will have to dig out the catalog image



    I've had the opportunity to sell a couple of ex Harry Einstein's coins privately over the years and each has been special as he had a keen eye. Harry was the son of a pawnbroker and the cousin of Albert Einstein. Unlike most celebrity auctions in the 1980's a majority of the lots in the sale actually belonged to Einstein. Parkyakarkus was his most famed character which meant "Sit Down". Harry had a bad heart and died in the lap of Milton Berle after a 10 minute on stage comedy bit at a awards dinner for Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz. Below are a few 1986 newspaper about the sale of his collection I found the last time I did some research on him.



    Pre Sale:



    Old-time radio listeners might remember "Parkyakarkus," a character created by Boston-born Harry Einstein. Besides being a radio personality and sometime movie actor, Einstein, who died in 1958, was a keen coin collector who was able to retire from show business at the age of 44 on the strength of his investments.



    His collection will be sold June 23-25 as part of a major offering of coins at the St. Moritz-on-the-Park Hotel, Central Park South in New York City.



    Einstein's collection ran to gold, and of the 855 lots in the catalogue, about 650 contain important gold coins.



    Because his collecting began at the end of the era of U.S. gold coins, Einstein cannily gathered coins from the 1930s before the Treasury began its melt-down policy. As a result, the sale will offer a 1933 gold eagle in uncirculated condition, one of between 30 and 40 known to exist.



    The collection also includes what the auctioneer, Bowers and Merena Galleries Inc., describes as the finest known 1852 eagle.



    Einstein sought out early gold coinage as well. Among the eagles is one made in 1795, the first year of gold coinage, graded about uncirculated, a 1799 piece, and 1801 and 1803 coins, all in high grades.



    The collection also offers four high-relief Saint-Gaudens double eagles, which were first struck in 1907 before pragmatism dictated a change in dies to make the coins flatter. The double eagles also include one 1931-D example in uncirculated condition, one of 30 or so surviving.



    Notable as Einstein's collection is, the star of this sale will undoubtedly be the 1804 silver dollar to be sold June 25.



    The silver dollar formerly had been in the Garrett Collection, and when that $25 million gathering of coins was auctioned in 1980, it sold for $400,000 to Larry Hanks, a Texas dealer. Hanks put the coin up for sale two years later, when the market was staggering, and it fetched $190,000.



    The romance surrounding the 1804 dollar has made it the center of detective novels. Its rarity is based on the fact that no dollars of that date were actually struck in 1804; only in 1834, when the mint was assembling presentation proof coins for the Sultan of Muscat, were dollars bearing the 1804 date struck.



    Only 15 of the silver dollars are known to exist, and their appearance at any auction marks a numismatic event.



    The three-day sale includes a variety of U.S. coins and 24 architectural medals, all by the Wiener brothers, Belgian engravers. These bronze medals depict notable European cathedrals, the Hagia Sophia and the synagogue of Cologne



    Post Sale:



    Buyers paid $1.5 million for a collection of gold coins amassed by entertainer Harry Einstein when it went on sale in June in New York.



    An additional $1.8 million was realized from other coins offered in the same two-day sale conducted by Bowers and Merena Inc.



    The star of the sale was the 1804 silver dollar that had been part of the Garrett Collection. That coin was not part of Einstein's hoard. Because the coin is one of only 16 known, its progress has been charted carefully bycollectors. Larry Hanks, a Texas dealer, paid $400,000 for it in 1980 at a Garrett sale. Two years later, he sold it at auction - for $190,000. In June, despite high bidding interest, the coin brought $187,000.



    One of Einstein's coins, a 1933 gold eagle in near-pristine condition, sold for $79,200. Two Saint-Gaudens double eagles in proof condition sold at $28,600 apiece. One was 1911 and the other 1915, but proofs were struck in editions limited to 100 or fewer in both years.



    Einstein, who died in 1958, collected top-grade gold, and the buyer response justified his diligence, according to Ray Merena, partner in Bowers and Merena.

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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations at starting at the shallow end of the pool! Those coins look beautiful. I consider myself an experienced collector and I have only recently begun venturing into lower mintage (if not yet early date) gold. It is not for the inexperienced or faint of heart. I have found it confounding and I've concluded that I need to do a lot more studying on the subject. I have a "knack" of being too critical of marks and wear on most gold coins, while at the same time, missing important defects and problems. I'm not giving up, but I do think this is one of the toughest areas of U.S. federal coinage.

    Tom

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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    great looking coins! congrats on your early gold. i love it too.
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love the 1847 D!
  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭
    Great coins, thank you for sharing.
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting collecting progression. I think you've settled on a winner. Lovely early gold! Congrats.

    Lance.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Broadstruck
    Congrats as I really like the ex Parkyakarkus and will have to dig out the catalog image

    I've had the opportunity to sell a couple of ex Harry Einstein's coins privately over the years and each has been special as he had a keen eye. Harry was the son of a pawnbroker and the cousin of Albert Einstein. Unlike most celebrity auctions in the 1980's a majority of the lots in the sale actually belonged to Einstein. Parkyakarkus was his most famed character which meant "Sit Down". Harry had a bad heart and died in the lap of Milton Berle after a 10 minute on stage comedy bit at a awards dinner for Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz. Below are a few 1986 newspaper about the sale of his collection I found the last time I did some research on him.

    Pre Sale:

    Old-time radio listeners might remember "Parkyakarkus," a character created by Boston-born Harry Einstein. Besides being a radio personality and sometime movie actor, Einstein, who died in 1958, was a keen coin collector who was able to retire from show business at the age of 44 on the strength of his investments.

    His collection will be sold June 23-25 as part of a major offering of coins at the St. Moritz-on-the-Park Hotel, Central Park South in New York City.

    Einstein's collection ran to gold, and of the 855 lots in the catalogue, about 650 contain important gold coins.

    Because his collecting began at the end of the era of U.S. gold coins, Einstein cannily gathered coins from the 1930s before the Treasury began its melt-down policy. As a result, the sale will offer a 1933 gold eagle in uncirculated condition, one of between 30 and 40 known to exist.

    The collection also includes what the auctioneer, Bowers and Merena Galleries Inc., describes as the finest known 1852 eagle.

    Einstein sought out early gold coinage as well. Among the eagles is one made in 1795, the first year of gold coinage, graded about uncirculated, a 1799 piece, and 1801 and 1803 coins, all in high grades.

    The collection also offers four high-relief Saint-Gaudens double eagles, which were first struck in 1907 before pragmatism dictated a change in dies to make the coins flatter. The double eagles also include one 1931-D example in uncirculated condition, one of 30 or so surviving.

    Notable as Einstein's collection is, the star of this sale will undoubtedly be the 1804 silver dollar to be sold June 25.

    The silver dollar formerly had been in the Garrett Collection, and when that $25 million gathering of coins was auctioned in 1980, it sold for $400,000 to Larry Hanks, a Texas dealer. Hanks put the coin up for sale two years later, when the market was staggering, and it fetched $190,000.

    The romance surrounding the 1804 dollar has made it the center of detective novels. Its rarity is based on the fact that no dollars of that date were actually struck in 1804; only in 1834, when the mint was assembling presentation proof coins for the Sultan of Muscat, were dollars bearing the 1804 date struck.

    Only 15 of the silver dollars are known to exist, and their appearance at any auction marks a numismatic event.

    The three-day sale includes a variety of U.S. coins and 24 architectural medals, all by the Wiener brothers, Belgian engravers. These bronze medals depict notable European cathedrals, the Hagia Sophia and the synagogue of Cologne

    Post Sale:

    Buyers paid $1.5 million for a collection of gold coins amassed by entertainer Harry Einstein when it went on sale in June in New York.

    An additional $1.8 million was realized from other coins offered in the same two-day sale conducted by Bowers and Merena Inc.

    The star of the sale was the 1804 silver dollar that had been part of the Garrett Collection. That coin was not part of Einstein's hoard. Because the coin is one of only 16 known, its progress has been charted carefully bycollectors. Larry Hanks, a Texas dealer, paid $400,000 for it in 1980 at a Garrett sale. Two years later, he sold it at auction - for $190,000. In June, despite high bidding interest, the coin brought $187,000.

    One of Einstein's coins, a 1933 gold eagle in near-pristine condition, sold for $79,200. Two Saint-Gaudens double eagles in proof condition sold at $28,600 apiece. One was 1911 and the other 1915, but proofs were struck in editions limited to 100 or fewer in both years.

    Einstein, who died in 1958, collected top-grade gold, and the buyer response justified his diligence, according to Ray Merena, partner in Bowers and Merena.





    Awesome background info, thanks!

    PM, amazing gold wow thanks for sharing! I'd say that you're swimming in the deep end now...at least in that part of the pool where the floor slopes down.... image
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    If I had those first two coins they would be the centerpiece of my collection.

    Amazingly great coins image
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool! It is my first time seeing the Harry Einstein provenance.

    Awesome background provided by Broadstruck! Really really neat!
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
    Wow....thank you for sharing!
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  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice

    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those are beautiful coins. That 47-D glows like molten lava.



    Fascinating backstory, Broadstruck, really enjoyed reading about H. Einstein.
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Excellent examples! Coin-grats!
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Absolutely beautiful.



    Someday.....
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really WOW coin! I love early gold - very impressive - thank you for sharing.
    Easton Collection

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