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Here is my Flowing Hair Dollar - please tell me what you think

Hello everyone.

I've been away from the forums for quite a while, but have been lurking again the last few days. Hard to imagine - but I sort of forgot how deep the knowledge here really ran. I continue to be blown away by how much of some of you guys know, and how readily you share it.

Anyway, here is a picture of a Flowing Hair dollar I own. (1795 - 3 leaves)

How I got it is kind of a neat story. My grandfather was helping his father move sometime in the late 60s. They finished dragging a dresser out to a curb when my grandpa heard a 'ring'. This coin fell from from the back of the top drawer (where it was taped) onto the sidewalk. Grandpa picked it up - Great grandpa said something along the lines of "oh, I forgot about that" and told told him to keep it. Grandpa threw it in his pocket and finished with the move. When he got home, he tucked it into a shoebox of keepsake stuff around the house, and there it sat for about 30 years.

In the late 90's, my grandparents both retired, and were moving to Vegas. You can accumulate a lot of stuff being in one house for 40 years, and when going through it all, he rediscovered the dollar. He took it to somewhere local to him in LA who offered him $500. He suspected that was fishy, held on to it, packed it up with the rest of the stuff and moved.

Once settled in Vegas, he decided to dig into the matter again, and brought it to Sahara coin to get an idea of value. They told him about third party grading services, and helped him submit it to ANACS.

After learning it was worth more than a few hundred bucks, he decided he didn't want to sell it after all, and instead figured he'd keep it stashed away for a rainy day (though this time in a proper safe deposit box). He was never really IN to coins but he did like the idea of a small pretty thing having significant cash value The rainy day never came.

He died almost 12 years ago, and still had the coin tucked away in his safe deposit box. What I didn't know was that a note in there saying my grandma should give it to me (if she didn't need the money).

I've now had it for several years, but I've never really had the opportunity to show it off. None of my 'real life' friends are much into coins, it's too expensive to keep laying around the house, and I don't get to go to shows or anything too often

So.....after 5 or so years in my SDB, 10 in my grandpa's, 30 in a shoebox, and god knows how long taped to a dresser drawer......here it is. I don't know if I'll keep it until I die, but it is kind of neat to remember the story of how a coin minted when Washington was president fell onto a sidewalk in the 1960s and was almost forgotten about for another 40 years.

Thanks for listening.

What do you think it's proper grade is? What do you think the holder says? Should I ever bother sending it to PCGS instead? (the perfect little circle above the '9' is a spot on the plastic)

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a great piece, and a great story. It should stay in your family. F15/20 ish?
  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool !!

    Doesn't look like its trip to the sidewalk hurt it any...I'd say its F15 or VF20 at PCGS.

    It's really hard to gauge issues such as cleaning from most of our pictures, but it looks

    To me like it has a decent chance for straight grading image
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree, great story and welcome back.

    The dollar has that circ-cam look, IMO. image

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  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice Coin..... B-5
  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,665 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love a great story----thanks for sharing.



    I agree with bolivarshagnasty---F 15 shot at VF 20.



    The coin also has GREAT sentimental value.

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  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice honest coin!



    I have a "family coin" with a similar story. Unfortunately, it's a 1921 Morgan in VF. image
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    beautiful coin!
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like this coin.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great coin and fantastic story... Looks VF20...might be even a tad better. Cheers, RickO
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,319 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome back! Great story and I will get back to your PM soon. image

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  • RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭✭
    Love it! That's a great story and a terrific coin. Sure looks like a keeper to me. Congrats!
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    It's a great coin!
    I'd give it a VF20.

    It's something you definitely want to keep in the family.
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks very original and I would say F15.
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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a fantastic story. The coin has a nice, wholesome look.



    I value the coin this way: 1% grade, 99% sentimental significance. The grade on the holder isn't important.



    If you're not itching to sell it, don't bother with having it re-graded. The ANACS holder is protecting it perfectly well. Someday if you want to part with it, it will be simple to have it regraded according to the prevailing opinion of whatever the standards are at that point.



    I would also type up the story and keep a copy of it with the coin. You never know what might happen and your heirs will appreciate it long after you're gone.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: AMRC

    I like this coin.




    +1



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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i love it. i would slab it if it were mine. you don't want to risk dropping it again.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks stunning and I hope you have the opportunity to keep it in your family for generations to come. It is the B-5 die marriage, which is "common" for this series.
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  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin. I'm in the F15 camp, and a solid one it is. Great story to go with it! Thanks for sharing -

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  • etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭
    I really like the story and the coin.



    I have had many of those on several watch lists but never pulled the trigger.





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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,566 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Love that circ-cam look! Pass it down your family tree and keep the memory of your loved ones alive. I'd get it out if the ANACS holder and send it to PCGS where I think it will go VF-20.
    Thanks for sharing

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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a beautiful coin.
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for sharing...great story and a nice ending....not sold.



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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great coin and great story.
  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Really love stories like this.
    Thanks for sharing the family history and this sweet coin.

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  • KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Walkerfan

    I love a great story----thanks for sharing.



    The coin also has GREAT sentimental value.


    +1



    Very nice coin.



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  • PutTogetherPutTogether Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for replies.

    I've got no plans of it going anywhere. I sold a 2 leaves version a while back, so this is the last one I have. Writing the story down and keeping it with the coin is a great idea - thank you for that. My daughter never met my grandfather - so if she ends up interested in such things it will be cool to have the story. Maybe I'll find a picture of him and his father to keep with it to. Something for her to have from two guys she never had the chance to meet. OR she can use it if she needs the money - either way is fine with me.

    Funny tangent to the story: I was very close with my grandpa, and while he was never really into coins, when I was young he would occasionally shuttle me back and forth to the local coin shop so I could window-shop. Neither one of us ever knew that his father was apparently a coin collector. Other than that one dollar falling out of a dresser, my grandpa had no memory go his dad ever having any coins around. He died about 5 years before my grandpa did, and left behind a pretty neat box of assorted circulated stuff. Grandpa saved it for me and a lot of it still sits in my 7070.

    Funny how things happen.

  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I too, enjoyed the story and that's a nice original looking coin, I really like it. I have one, but it was a victim of the "old cleaning" but not obviously so. I'd say yours should go F15 easily, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it at VF20. Glad to have you back on the forum!
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  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭
    What a fantastic family story! And not to mention a good looking coin.
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet coin and great story! I'm glad he didn't sell it. That is a coin that will likely only go up in value.

    You should hold onto it for as long as you can!
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  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet looking coin, and great family story!
  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a great coin.

    Great story too!
  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet story to go with an awesome coin, thanks for sharing.
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great coin and story. VF20 is my grade.
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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very sweet coin.

    Get it in PCGS plastic.
  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,045 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks, a great numismatic ride..
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,047 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm no expert on these but boy does it look wholesome!
  • PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭
    Great Coin.

    These kind of threads are my favorites.
  • goldengolden Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Super story! I think it will go 15.
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's so refreshing to view a coin that hasn't been molested. Very nice.

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