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Whiny Wednesday Thread: Post your weekly whines/annoyances/grievances here
mercurydimeguy
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For the sake of my own sanity and ongoing enjoyment of the hobby, I decided (as a New Year's resolution) to confine my coin whining to once per week.
I then thought this morning, why not democratize my Whiny Wednesday to the CU Forum, in case others want to take the pledge/oath with me, and perhaps post their grievances here for others to commiserate and/or learn from.
Anyhow, if this is lame them disregard. If not, then post away
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First official Whiny Wednesday post....
I hate when I see coins I need for my PCGS Registry Set in other holders, at PCGS price points, knowing darn well that the coin will not cross at a commensurate level, yet the seller wants PQ/premium pricing.
There are at least 2 coins I'd pull the trigger on today. One particular one is nice and is like an MS62+/MS63- that I'd love to own, but it happens to be in an NGC MS64 holder. The seller wants 1.5x PCGS MS64 Retail money cause it's a scarce coin in MS64. The problem is that it's not an MS64 and he won't budge on the price (to say 1x NGC MS64 Retail price), which I would then pay, albeit begrudgingly.
We've been going back/forth for nearly 2 years on the same coin -- he still has it in inventory, and I told him if he put it in a PCGS MS64 holder I'd pay him the asking price. He is a very prominent but old time dealer -- and so the coin still sits in the NGC MS64 tomb.
I told him jokingly that if he really wants to collect the coin to take it out of his inventory
I then thought this morning, why not democratize my Whiny Wednesday to the CU Forum, in case others want to take the pledge/oath with me, and perhaps post their grievances here for others to commiserate and/or learn from.
Anyhow, if this is lame them disregard. If not, then post away
---------------
First official Whiny Wednesday post....
I hate when I see coins I need for my PCGS Registry Set in other holders, at PCGS price points, knowing darn well that the coin will not cross at a commensurate level, yet the seller wants PQ/premium pricing.
There are at least 2 coins I'd pull the trigger on today. One particular one is nice and is like an MS62+/MS63- that I'd love to own, but it happens to be in an NGC MS64 holder. The seller wants 1.5x PCGS MS64 Retail money cause it's a scarce coin in MS64. The problem is that it's not an MS64 and he won't budge on the price (to say 1x NGC MS64 Retail price), which I would then pay, albeit begrudgingly.
We've been going back/forth for nearly 2 years on the same coin -- he still has it in inventory, and I told him if he put it in a PCGS MS64 holder I'd pay him the asking price. He is a very prominent but old time dealer -- and so the coin still sits in the NGC MS64 tomb.
I told him jokingly that if he really wants to collect the coin to take it out of his inventory
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peacockcoins
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
winy > whiny > whiney
winy > whiny > whiney > wine.
I'll have a glass of Merlot please.
peacockcoins
Great catch...I often unknowingly do this as I type. Like buy instead of by
I type way too fast and don't read it back to myself, which I should start doing ...
I fixed it
whiny > whiney.
+ cheese
They walk threw the door and put 10 tubes full of Ike dollars down. I tell them that none of these particular ikes are silver..... then they proceed to scream at me and tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about and that these coins are all 90 % silver and I'm the dumbest coin dealer alive. Then I tell them that I would be more then happy to buy these for 1.10 each and they continue to flip out telling me they are 90% silver. I then proceed to tell them that they should take them to another dealer and let them buy these "90%" percent dollars and they leave. The next morning they walk in and tell me they want to sell them to me for 1.10 each and after being screamed at by these people not one time was an appoligy offered to me
HAPPY COLLECTING
Most of the whining here seems to be about ebay, USPS or software. Over and over and over again. Cheers, RickO
Now the new Gray Sheet says this coin in AU 58 should bid for $300. How much you wanna bet it would have sold easier and for more money as Unc "Details" rather than market graded as it was?
You had one job..........
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isn't there enough whining in here without having to showcase it ?
The point was to confine whining to Wednesdays only and to this thread...so there would be less whining by the people who chose this method of venting. Others of course can do as they please
Im beating myself up over the fact that I'm going to crack out a perfectly nice PCGS MS 63 1907 $20 Gold Liberty and a PCGS MS63 1924 Gold St. Gaudens so I can put them in my Dansco 7070 type set. Its hard to do, I promise.
Not really. That is precisely what I did when I was populating my 7070 album, including the gold page. Would I do that if they were 65 CAC? No
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
isn't there enough whining in here without having to ask for more ?
In a twist of irony, we are now whining about the whining thread.
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"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
We've been going back/forth for nearly 2 years on the same coin -- he still has it in inventory, and I told him if he put it in a PCGS MS64 holder I'd pay him the asking price. He is a very prominent but old time dealer -- and so the coin still sits in the NGC MS64 tomb.
I told him jokingly that if he really wants to collect the coin to take it out of his inventory
Hmmmm, sounds very familiar. Trust me, he's fine with collecting them.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
For the sake of my own sanity and ongoing enjoyment of the hobby, I decided (as a New Year's resolution) to confine my coin whining to once per week.
I then thought this morning, why not democratize my Whiny Wednesday to the CU Forum, in case others want to take the pledge/oath with me, and perhaps post their grievances here for others to commiserate and/or learn from.
Anyhow, if this is lame them disregard. If not, then post away
---------------
First official Whiny Wednesday post....
I hate when I see coins I need for my PCGS Registry Set in other holders, at PCGS price points, knowing darn well that the coin will not cross at a commensurate level, yet the seller wants PQ/premium pricing.
There are at least 2 coins I'd pull the trigger on today. One particular one is nice and is like an MS62+/MS63- that I'd love to own, but it happens to be in an NGC MS64 holder. The seller wants 1.5x PCGS MS64 Retail money cause it's a scarce coin in MS64. The problem is that it's not an MS64 and he won't budge on the price (to say 1x NGC MS64 Retail price), which I would then pay, albeit begrudgingly.
We've been going back/forth for nearly 2 years on the same coin -- he still has it in inventory, and I told him if he put it in a PCGS MS64 holder I'd pay him the asking price. He is a very prominent but old time dealer -- and so the coin still sits in the NGC MS64 tomb.
I told him jokingly that if he really wants to collect the coin to take it out of his inventory
There are too many collectors addicted to one brand of plastic.
For the sake of my own sanity and ongoing enjoyment of the hobby, I decided (as a New Year's resolution) to confine my coin whining to once per week.
I then thought this morning, why not democratize my Whiny Wednesday to the CU Forum, in case others want to take the pledge/oath with me, and perhaps post their grievances here for others to commiserate and/or learn from.
Anyhow, if this is lame them disregard. If not, then post away
---------------
First official Whiny Wednesday post....
I hate when I see coins I need for my PCGS Registry Set in other holders, at PCGS price points, knowing darn well that the coin will not cross at a commensurate level, yet the seller wants PQ/premium pricing.
There are at least 2 coins I'd pull the trigger on today. One particular one is nice and is like an MS62+/MS63- that I'd love to own, but it happens to be in an NGC MS64 holder. The seller wants 1.5x PCGS MS64 Retail money cause it's a scarce coin in MS64. The problem is that it's not an MS64 and he won't budge on the price (to say 1x NGC MS64 Retail price), which I would then pay, albeit begrudgingly.
We've been going back/forth for nearly 2 years on the same coin -- he still has it in inventory, and I told him if he put it in a PCGS MS64 holder I'd pay him the asking price. He is a very prominent but old time dealer -- and so the coin still sits in the NGC MS64 tomb.
I told him jokingly that if he really wants to collect the coin to take it out of his inventory
There are too many collectors addicted to one brand of plastic.
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Not sure what that comment (which can certainly be true in some/many cases) has with what you quoted....
The way I read the OP was that he would buy it in the NGC plastic IF it was priced at what he thought the coin actually grades at. He believes it is in overgraded plastic at the moment, but priced at the higher level and at PCGS prices.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
There are too many collectors addicted to one brand of plastic.
????
Not sure what that comment (which can certainly be true in some/many cases) has with what you quoted....
The way I read the OP was that he would buy it in the NGC plastic IF it was priced at what he thought the coin actually grades at. He believes it is in overgraded plastic at the moment, but priced at the higher level and at PCGS prices.
Bochiman, you are spot on...that's exactly what I meant
Got a shipment of ATB quarters from the mint today. Try opening those white boxes.
Wanna loan me your credit card?
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http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
Got a shipment of ATB quarters from the mint today. Try opening those white boxes.
Wanna loan me your credit card?
Did you find something we can flip in a day and/ or make 20% on before the grace period ?
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
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I live in New England and I feel like we are ignored bythe MAJOR coin show circuit. Other than the NY INC (International Numismatic Convention) there are no MAJOR coin shows in our neck of the woods. New England is one of the most densely populated regions and has a large amount of the countries wealth. so what gives? I'd like to attend some coin grading classes, attend some nerdy seminars, but I'm not going to travel to Baltimore, Florida, California or Colorado Springs (for the summer seminar) to do that. There are plenty of nice sate of the art convention centers between Newark/NYC/Hartford/Providence/Boston to hold these!
Don't get me wrong, the Bay State show and the Mansfield Numismatic Society Annual Show are great, but they can't offer what the Major coin shows can...
My whine for the day is that e-Bay only gave 3x bucks for today and tomorrow. If it was 5x I would be much happier.
I was going to whine that I haven't received any bonus bucks offers this quarter, but I guess now I have to wait until next week.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Want to know what grinds my gears (in Peter Griffins voice)?
I live in New England and I feel like we are ignored bythe MAJOR coin show circuit. Other than the NY INC (International Numismatic Convention) there are no MAJOR coin shows in our neck of the woods. New England is one of the most densely populated regions and has a large amount of the countries wealth. so what gives? I'd like to attend some coin grading classes, attend some nerdy seminars, but I'm not going to travel to Baltimore, Florida, California or Colorado Springs (for the summer seminar) to do that. There are plenty of nice sate of the art convention centers between Newark/NYC/Hartford/Providence/Boston to hold these!
Don't get me wrong, the Bay State show and the Mansfield Numismatic Society Annual Show are great, but they can't offer what the Major coin shows can...
I'll second this, there are a handful of major midwest and west coast dealers whom I have never met because they never have any reason to come to this part of the country for shows. For a few years there was a good show in Stamford, CT that began to draw national dealers but it died out after a few years. Now I work right across the street from the hotel where it was held, I'd like nothing better than to see a show come back here.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
X= $12.35, currently. Not much, but a hit here, and a whack there.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
isn't there enough whining in here without having to ask for more ?
Want to know what grinds my gears (in Peter Griffins voice)?
I live in New England and I feel like we are ignored bythe MAJOR coin show circuit. Other than the NY INC (International Numismatic Convention) there are no MAJOR coin shows in our neck of the woods. New England is one of the most densely populated regions and has a large amount of the countries wealth. so what gives? I'd like to attend some coin grading classes, attend some nerdy seminars, but I'm not going to travel to Baltimore, Florida, California or Colorado Springs (for the summer seminar) to do that. There are plenty of nice sate of the art convention centers between Newark/NYC/Hartford/Providence/Boston to hold these!
Don't get me wrong, the Bay State show and the Mansfield Numismatic Society Annual Show are great, but they can't offer what the Major coin shows can...
I'll second this, there are a handful of major midwest and west coast dealers whom I have never met because they never have any reason to come to this part of the country for shows. For a few years there was a good show in Stamford, CT that began to draw national dealers but it died out after a few years. Now I work right across the street from the hotel where it was held, I'd like nothing better than to see a show come back here.
Sean Reynolds
The venues are probably to expensive!
isn't there enough whining in here without having to ask for more ?
In a twist of irony, we are now whining about the whining thread.
Stuff I want always seems to pop up when I'm stone broke.
Same here.
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Dave, you should consider your reply from the perspective of everyone who would attend a show in Maine. the reason so many shows are held in Baltimore and Long Beach is the location and accessibility to such a large population.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
This will likely get me banned, but : TGIF
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I'd like to attend some coin grading classes, attend some nerdy seminars, but I'm not going to travel to Baltimore, Florida, California or Colorado Springs (for the summer seminar) to do that.
Dave, you should consider your reply from the perspective of everyone who would attend a show in Maine. the reason so many shows are held in Baltimore and Long Beach is the location and accessibility to such a large population.
I understand why there are no major shows in Maine, but not NYC/Hartford/Boston. Comparing Maine to Boston or NYC is not apples to apples
Last time I checked, the population of Boston is bigger than Baltimore and has great public transportation and hotel and convention accommodations (busways, the "T" and Logan Airport) so that shouldn't be an issue...
I'm not trying to say that all major shows should be in New England, but from my perspective I feel left out and I'm sure I'm not the only one in New England that feels that way. I'm pretty sure there are users here that live in NYC (I know its not considered New England), CT or VT/ME or NH that would be happy to spend a few hours on the road to go to a major show hosted in Boston or NYC instead of spending 1/2 their coin budget on a plane ticket to get to a show in Baltimore or Long Beach....
OK, I have 5 orders in PCGS, some dating back to mid February. Can I get at least one of the orders to process? Toss a man a bone, keep me in the game/hunt, make me salivate for more...but geez, it's not like they are economy orders...
Im beating myself up over the fact that I'm going to crack out a perfectly nice PCGS MS 63 1907 $20 Gold Liberty and a PCGS MS63 1924 Gold St. Gaudens so I can put them in my Dansco 7070 type set. Its hard to do, I promise.[/q
Have you looked at the digital albums in the registry no more cracking.
One of mine....Gold 12 Piece type.
customers who only seem to come into the store when I'm trying to eat lunch and want to look but not buy.
This x 1000. It's like they have some freakish food radar or something. I'll open up whatever it is I'm eating and within 2 bites someone comes in wanting to kill time, ask a million questions and/or tell me about everything they/grandpa/uncle/whoever used to have, and/or dazzle me with their numismatic expertise. Then leave without buying anything, and I get to go back to cold food. Microwave, two more bites, repeat scenario.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
isn't there enough whining in here without having to ask for more ?
In a twist of irony, we are now whining about the whining thread.
My YouTube Channel
customers who only seem to come into the store when I'm trying to eat lunch and want to look but not buy.
This x 1000. It's like they have some freakish food radar or something. I'll open up whatever it is I'm eating and within 2 bites someone comes in wanting to kill time, ask a million questions and/or tell me about everything they/grandpa/uncle/whoever used to have, and/or dazzle me with their numismatic expertise. Then leave without buying anything, and I get to go back to cold food. Microwave, two more bites, repeat scenario.
That's ALL coin shops!
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That time has passed. Maybe next time.
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