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I cherrypicked myself, but require assistance with it's type/value

From a bulk lot I purchased quite some time ago. Was labelled as 1700's British halfpenny. I was going through inventory today and it didn't look right. I took a close look and it's actually a 1787 Connecticut copper. Pretty worn/damaged, but the date and enough of the legend is legible.

I could use some help with an attribution/grade, as I am clueless on American Colonial copper. Thanks!

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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These are surprisingly higher graded than your first inclination might suggest.

    Forget about getting it attributed if it's a variety as the services wont do attributions unless the coin is included in a contracted collection (like Newman).

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭
    Bump for the weekend crowd. Any input on a grade? aG3? G4?
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  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Details are much higher than G, the question is the surface condition. IMHO.
    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd encourage you to look up a few of these in old Heritage auctions to get a better feel for what you have here. I'm surprised there's so little input by others.
    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭✭
    Neat find!



    I'd call it F details at best, environmental damage.



    As for the attribution, it's a project in that grade using those photos. The easiest (but not easy) way may be to scroll through the 1787 Connecticuts in the Ford sale shown here and try to find a match.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: CoinRaritiesOnline
    Neat find!

    I'd call it F details at best, environmental damage.
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  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭
    I would agree with CRO, VG to F details at best with environmental damage. It does probably net grade AG/G because of the surfaces. I did a quick look for attribution but with a coin in that condition and the photos given, it is a real uphill battle. There are literally a couple hundred varieties for 1787 on the Connecticut coppers and all of them are quite close. I wasn't able to get it.

    If it turns out to be a more common variety (R-1 through R-5) the value would be minimal (under $100). It it turns out to be a rarer die variety, the price can jump from there.

    There is enough on the coin to identify the variety, but it could be very time consuming unfortunately.

    Hope this helps.
    New England Rarities...Dealer In Colonial Coinage and Americana
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow...neat find.... a Connecticut copper is super, even in that grade.... Cheers, RickO
  • PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭
    Acetone did pretty well on this piece. The glue residue is completely gone.

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  • I thought acetone turned copper pink?
  • PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: JCLIGHTBRIGADE
    I thought acetone turned copper pink?


    It can. I've seen it turn uncirculated copper surfaces a slightly pink color at times.
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  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭
    33.38-Z.1 anyone agree?
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    Ed. S.

    (EJS)
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool find!
  • BodinBodin Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭
    This appears to be W-3925, Miller 33.38 obverse and Z-1 reverse
    99% positive
  • BodinBodin Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭
    Just saw that Aegis3 beat me to it.
    GOOD EYE!
  • PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭
    Thanks guys! A big help to clueless (about colonials) me image
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