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Sometimes PCGS and NGC see coins the same way...

oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
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There have been threads about how loose some TPG are in comparison to PCGS, but on occasion they see along similar lines. My last submission to PCGS crossover/variety attribution produced the same grades for two recent purchases;



(1961) CSA Bashlow Restrike Copper PCGS MS67RD (tied at Top Pop)



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1858-O 50C WB-102 PCGS XF40 (bottom feeder with two higher)



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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,478 ✭✭✭
    congrats on going 2 for 2 on the cross

    nice to see grades remain the same too as that can be a win in itself there too



    i really dig that brashlow restrike
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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These two were won accidently, they went for a lot less than I my bid to keep a watch on them. Grading the "defaced dies" "coin" would be a challenge itself.
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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,478 ✭✭✭
    lol you bet surely they had fun grading it on merits of grading

    and for it to pop the same grade by 2 services is amazing
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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Interesting. When did PCGS start grading the Confederate Cents? When I send one in I got a lecture on not following "the rules" and they sent it back to me; PCGS refused to grade it.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: fcloud

    Interesting. When did PCGS start grading the Confederate Cents? When I send one in I got a lecture on not following "the rules" and they sent it back to me; PCGS refused to grade it.




    It has been accepted recently, I stumbled across them in CoinFacts and that is why I sent it in.
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Common sense should dictate that if people KNOW HOW TO GRADE that they should grade a coin the same no matter who they work for.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That '58 O is a very nice coin... Cheers, RickO
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ricko
    That '58 O is a very nice coin... Cheers, RickO


    yeah, i like the looks of that one to
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1858-O Half is fixin' to go on to the BST.
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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,948 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The two services,NGC and PCGS,are more alike than they are different.Probably has more to do with their business models than anything else.Neither service hands out high grades like they are candy.

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,369 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BAJJERFAN

    Common sense should dictate that if people KNOW HOW TO GRADE that they should grade a coin the same no matter who they work for.




    This is generally true. Crack out similar quality specimens and PCGS and NGC will grade them the same at least 66% (up to 90%) of time. This is a far cry from crossover statistics.



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  • brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the record it's "Bashlow", not Brashlow. There were 20,000 struck in copper / bronze -- and PCGS has been grading them for a couple years I believe.



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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The fingerprint(?) on the obverse of the 58-O is distracting. I also do not like that the fields on the reverse do not match the fields on the obverse. Bit of a flag for me.
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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: brg5658

    For the record it's "Bashlow", not Brashlow. There were 20,000 struck in copper / bronze -- and PCGS has been grading them for a couple years I believe.



    You may find this link useful.







    Thank you...and the OP is edited.
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