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Newbie - 1827 capped bust half with a twist

I thought I'd share a recent pick up. It's a nice example of the 1827 O.108 (R.4-). What cinched it for me in the auction was the little surprise running from the cap to the 8th star.
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zap1111
102 capped bust half dollars - 100 die marriages
BHNC #198

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting zap

    Could it be PMD ?



    Nice coin by the way.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    Hey JRocco!



    I'm fairly certain these are dentil tracks. I have another specimen that matches this look (although it's on the reverse of the coin). A long discussion in 2012 among the Bust Half Nut Club members that was reprinted in the BHNC Newsletter finds many thinking that dentil tracks are in a double strike on the coin. It's an interesting aspect to the coinage of that time period, to say the least.



    zap
    zap1111
    102 capped bust half dollars - 100 die marriages
    BHNC #198
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dentil tracks.

    Now that you say that I can't see anything other.

    GREAT catch and not easy to find one of these puppies.



    3 point shot zap with nuttin but net !

    Congrats.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice!
    Numismatist Ordinaire
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like the look of your AU53 1827 CBH. Dentil tracks, who knew? image
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Lovely and original example! Congrats!
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,871 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat. And nice coin.



    The 1827 Square Base 2 is my favorite date/variety of Bust half because that was the first one I ever got- was given one for my 13th birthday in 1978. I still have it. It and the 1936 dime which started me collecting in 1976 are the only two remnants of my childhood collection that remain with me today.



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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice coin and decent grade. you did well
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats! That's a really cool bonus. Nice find, Zap!

    Lance.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neat find and nice coin....Cheers, RickO
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a very cool find, and a great looking CBH too.
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Double struck. PCGS won't recognize it as such without evidence of the double strike on both sides, but it is a very cool piece, and unusual if not downright scarce. The question is how many 27s are there? I have a couple of halves...an 1824 and an 1807 draped.

    Congrats.

    Tom

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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Realone
    Originally posted by: TPRC
    Double struck. PCGS won't recognize it as such without evidence of the double strike on both sides, but it is a very cool piece, and unusual if not downright scarce. The question is how many 27s are there? I have a couple of halves...an 1824 and an 1807 draped.
    Congrats.


    Re d/s, pcgs won't put it on the holder unless asked and paid for.



    Agreed, but that's not what I meant. I brought my draped bust double struck half to Sheridan's table at a Baltimore show a couple of years ago and they sent me to Fred Weinberg, who was very helpful. As I understand it, d/s draped bust halves are much scarcer than capped bust halves. At the time, Weinberg basically told me that unless there is clear evidence of d/s on both sides, the grading companies will not certify them, since they cannot distinguish it with certainty from PMD. The bust half community as I understand it, disagrees with this position, but that is where matters stood a couple of years ago.

    Fred Weinberg posts here so maybe he can offer his views.

    Tom

  • zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    Thanks for all of the commentary folks. I did not see any doubling on the reverse with my first look. I'll check it again soon.



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    zap1111
    102 capped bust half dollars - 100 die marriages
    BHNC #198
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