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Update 1975 Topps Rod Carew graded

SmokieSmokie Posts: 393 ✭✭✭
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Anybody think this card has a chance at a 9? It did not get a 9 I though maybe



Here is a side by side 8.5



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  • estangestang Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭
    The centering top/bottom doesn't appear 9 quality.. The edges and corners look almost too sharp - sheet cut ?
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  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    8.5


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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Darin

    Yes.




    +1



    I agree. Definitely has a shot. Centering is a bit high T/B, but PSA prefers centering higher vs lower on 75s. I'd go with Swartz and say 8.5, though half grades are inconsistently assigned.


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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say 9 all day long, but it's a '75. PSA grades these WAY too tough.



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  • ahkmedbinladenahkmedbinladen Posts: 494 ✭✭
    what are you guys smoking? That is centered waaay to high. No shot at all
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ahkmedbinladen

    what are you guys smoking? That is centered waaay to high. No shot at all




    I would disagree, Brian~PSA definitely favors higher centering over lower centering for 1975 Topps baseball, at least. Not saying this card will grade PSA 9 (more likely it's closer a PSA 8 than a PSA 9), but it has at least a shot. Here's a Torre, graded PSA 9 with similar T/B centering (and same color combo).



    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-T..._trksid=p2047675.l2557



    And a Morgan, again same color combo with All Star, centered a bit better than the Carew, but at least similarly:



    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Well-C..._trksid=p2047675.l2557


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  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm having trouble posting this message, but I'm not smoking anything. What are the concerns regarding PSA's standards for centering on a PSA 9 again?



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  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    That Schmidt is clearly misgraded. It should be in a PSA 7 holder, maybe a 7.5 on a generous day.

    It looks 32/68 L-r, not in the PSA 9 range at all, not to mention the edge dings/wear.



    Just awful looking for the grade assigned.
  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That Schmidt isn't mine BTW, it recently sold on ebay. I was surprised a card that off center was in a 9 holder.

    I can see what Grote is saying about PSA favoring high centering over low centering, this Fran Healy was a recent sub of mine and I didn't think it deserved the OC qualifier.





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  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
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  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I still love that Hank psa 7. I remember when you posted it before. The Hank #660 is notorious for print defects, and that one the surface is just beautiful.
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Darin
    That Schmidt isn't mine BTW, it recently sold on ebay. I was surprised a card that off center was in a 9 holder.
    I can see what Grote is saying about PSA favoring high centering over low centering, this Fran Healy was a recent sub of mine and I didn't think it deserved the OC qualifier.


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    I think that if you look at the card again it is off t/b as far as centering.
  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭
    8.5

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭
    Poor guy needs a heart transplant.

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: cardbender

    That Schmidt is clearly misgraded. It should be in a PSA 7 holder, maybe a 7.5 on a generous day.

    It looks 32/68 L-r, not in the PSA 9 range at all, not to mention the edge dings/wear.



    Just awful looking for the grade assigned.




    There have been a lot of obvious cases of mech error occurring on the grade portion of the flip for PSA cards. This is one that fits into that category. Not a grade assignment mistake by the grader, but instead I'm sure it was a mech error when it came time to print the flip.



  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    thanks darin!
  • ahkmedbinladenahkmedbinladen Posts: 494 ✭✭
    I agree that Psa tends to prefer 75s centered higher than lower but that card id either a straight Psa 8 or 9oc.
    If that were a Psa 9 ...would it be one you would want to own in your collection?
    And the Schmidt is obviously misgraded
  • EstilEstil Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭✭
    I just had a thought...are there any websites where you can see how good you can grade cards? That is, you get a quiz showing the card (that's already PSA graded but with the grade hidden) and see how many you can get right.
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  • seebelowseebelow Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭
    I actually brought that up but not many were interested. Most of these members are very good at grading. And are usually very close to PSA's decision. I can get close but still have a ways to go. Practice, practice...
    Interested in higher grade vintage cards. Aren't we all. image
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,976 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ahkmedbinladen
    I agree that Psa tends to prefer 75s centered higher than lower but that card id either a straight Psa 8 or 9oc.
    If that were a Psa 9 ...would it be one you would want to own in your collection?
    And the Schmidt is obviously misgraded


    I like the Carew, I don't mind cards that are very well centered side to side that are towards the top. With '75's it's less noticeable than on cards with "standard" borders.

    I do NOT like the Schmidt card.

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  • SmokieSmokie Posts: 393 ✭✭✭
    Rod Carew graded I guess a 9 wasn't in the card.
  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭
    Should be a 9 no doubt.

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • ahkmedbinladenahkmedbinladen Posts: 494 ✭✭
    solid 8 all day long...
  • ArtieFufkinArtieFufkin Posts: 13 ✭
    8.5 on the Carew. The Schmidt, in my opinion, is brutal.

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