Let me be the first to say congrats!!...who was foolish enough to sell that to you (esp. anywhere near 3 prices)...thats way to nice to be in my collection...
..and thats the nicest 3 you'll ever see...cl*****ic example where the card doesn't match the flip
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Originally posted by: seebelow Let me be the first to say congrats!!...who was foolish enough to sell that to you (esp. anywhere near 3 prices)...thats way to nice to be in my collection...
..and thats the nicest 3 you'll ever see...cl*****ic example where the card doesn't match the flip
Don't know him well enough, but he tried to sell me some Bonds refractors and a few Pokemon cards as well
Originally posted by: cardcountry And I heard he took diet Mountain Dew in trade...
Jeff
I am bringing it with me next week - don't worry . As fast as you go through that stuff might need to bring one of the trucks they use to deliver to Wal-Mart!
A long time ago I pretty much only collected early 70s on up...a generation thing....then I got the '64 Rose which immediately became one of my favorites...the block lettering, rookie trophy. it all just looked perfect...Now I can say the same about Mantles '64...the coloring and the block lettering...plus the centering on this one...It just looks clean and neat.....one person here even bought it without my knowledge....Im going to keep it for now........
Originally posted by: seebelow A long time ago I pretty much only collected early 70s on up...a generation thing....then I got the '64 Rose which immediately became one of my favorites...the block lettering, rookie trophy. it all just looked perfect...Now I can say the same about Mantles '64...the coloring and the block lettering...plus the centering on this one...It just looks clean and neat.....one person here even bought it without my knowledge....Im going to keep it for now........
KC..dont worry, I commented about the "staring poster" thru PM.
graygator...you can feel free to post/share on here or thru a different thread, Nov pickups..thanks for the kind words.
Ok, the next one Ill have to give credit to JFKheat...never really knew or appreciated Red Heart cards until I happened upon his thread of his collection. Its awesome and you should def scroll thru his.
I got this one while looking for a '54 card when the Red Hearts really caught my eye. With Mantle prices getting crazy this may be the only '54 that Ill ever have vs Bowman. But in my opinion its a great looking card. Maybe a little off T/B but great L/R. Looked even better once I got it in hand.
I find the '64 Topps flying under the radar as a really tough set when it comes to condition sensitivity. The Rose and Mantle cards are near impossible to find excellent eye appeal. Your Mantle is top notch. Does your Rose look similar?
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
KC...im where i have to scan and transfer each individual card to photo bucket....so takes me some time...do we have to go thru photo bucket to post pics?,,,so the posts may slow down at this busy time..still getting the hang of cropping, editing and loading....stilll have plenty more awesome cards i think some will enjoy...Happy Thanksgiving!!
dberk12....just read your msg....ive never really looked at 64s until rose then mantle...i like my rose....ill try to post it for you to decide..gotta scan it ect....and i agree with you, tough to find but when you finally find a good one, then they really look good...centering with the block lettering etc
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I was thinking of taking on the '64 set but I agree that it's a bear and very tough. You hit it on the head, now that i think about it, the Rose and Mantle are near impossible. But both are worth it and the top 2 cards aesthetically.
How about I just rename this thread "jeffs want/inventory list"..youll have them all eventually....and i shud get a CF page but would event. forget about it ...already too many sites to remember, twitter, FB, etc....there are some awesome collections on CF but I never remember to visit there.
Heres my next Mantle..the '57..difficult to find centered or crisp...this is ok...there are better ones out there but with prices where they are, (no chance I get a 9) Im ok with this....Ill upgrade if one ever comes around...and like all Mantles, great to look at...I hope you guys enjoy
Originally posted by: jmb Gonna be tough improving on that 57 Mantle.
Seriously. You are hemorrhaging sweet vintage cards right now. That '57 Mantle is much better than any I have seen for sale for a while. Now that you seem to be proficient using your photo bucket keep 'em coming!
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
Hey - when did you pick up a centered '57 Mantle? That thing is like a unicorn to find centered, and need to grab one along with 58 and 59 and I am close to home free for my Mantle run. Probably start to work on that run in spring/summer along with some Ruth and Gehrig pickups. Beautiful card there - one of the toughest Mantles to find in strong condition.
Was checking the pop report and this card is tough in high grade - only (4) 8.5's and 20+ 9's exist. Doubt I can grade on this one, and love the clean image on this year.
KC...Wow, congrats!!....great looking '60....i don't see how that one can be improved upon...i also didnt realize how few 8.5 or 9s there are....i still have to post mine (gotta scan first)..been waiting on your update
his 60 is in my top 5, maybe top 3
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WOW, I just LOVE looking at all these MICKS! Great cards guys.
STAY HEALTHY!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Yes, that 1960 is as tough as the toughest of his basic cards-- what's interesting about it is that aside from the usual centering issues, the card suffers from PD in the red, a "caved in" look to his face in some cases due to the red ink registration, and also myriad focus and print issues (i.e., that dreaded horizontal line) in the main image pane.
I am ecstatic to report that one of those condition rare 8.5 beauties of the infamously tough 1960 card just became part of the Mantle run I've been painstakingly curating this year. Along with an 8.5 of the elusive and also PD-ridden 1963. Should have pics soon.
Even more pumped to have recently landed a 7.5 example of the 1956 that is literally 50/50 all around, trouncing every 8 I've owned and seen over the years, even my 8.5s. Very pumped about this card and look forward to unveiling the whole project in the near future.
dm23hof..i can't wait to see your project..esp your '56 and '63.....sounds like top shelf collection......im like you where u just have to add a perfectly centered card despite already owning higher grade(s) of the same year...
...I haven't looked at my '60 in awhile (thought it was a nice one) but now you have me worried
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In the cases where I prefer the lower grade card aesthetically, and feel the higher grade is either just a subjective situation or does have only a technical edge, I will actually often sell the higher grade card. In the case of this '56, if they were all raw I'd prefer it, and I personally like the sheer rarity of the centering. Just the crazy way I roll sometimes. My 52 Topps is one such example where I've had higher tech grades but in my heart the 4.5 always looked like the better card when I held them side by side in hand, and so I always wound up selling the higher graded cards. That 57 and 64 are incredibly strong. The 57 is a m*****ive challenge to find remotely centered and crisply focused. The 62 depicted here is a dream card, would love to have one like that. KC's '60 is a favorite Mick I've seen posted as well.
Originally posted by: DM23HOF Yes, that 1960 is as tough as the toughest of his basic cards-- what's interesting about it is that aside from the usual centering issues, the card suffers from PD in the red, a "caved in" look to his face in some cases due to the red ink registration, and also myriad focus and print issues (i.e., that dreaded horizontal line) in the main image pane.
I am ecstatic to report that one of those condition rare 8.5 beauties of the infamously tough 1960 card just became part of the Mantle run I've been painstakingly curating this year. Along with an 8.5 of the elusive and also PD-ridden 1963. Should have pics soon.
Even more pumped to have recently landed a 7.5 example of the 1956 that is literally 50/50 all around, trouncing every 8 I've owned and seen over the years, even my 8.5s. Very pumped about this card and look forward to unveiling the whole project in the near future.
Matt - you picked up a 1960 Mantle in an 8.5? Cannot wait to see it, and that card above an 8 is a unicorn - just don't see them ever. There is one BVG 8.5 that has been for sale for a while that is a beauty, but something tells me it won't cross to to PSA - if so it would have already been purchased. Looking forward to seeing the 56 centered as well - such a tough card. You should be about done with the Mantle run now correct? I am thinking that while doing a Mantle run I might do a Nolan Ryan one as well - would be fun and a WHOLE lot cheaper as well
Thanks, KC. Yeah, that '60 is sneaky tough. We really don't see high eye appeal Mantles that are also grade 8 and up too often. I've seen some private offerings for technical grades that high but at the price they command, I find it imperative not to settle. Would rather pay a higher premium for a sharp card that has both the technical and the aesthetics, the latter being the biggest factor, for me. For example some of the 8s of the 60, 57, and 56 especially just don't do it for me, because the corners carry them to that grade, but there are either PD, focus, or centering issues. The population report data can be very deceiving in that regard, because where there are X-many in Grade Y, how many in that grade are really stellar...probably way fewer than we'd think. I look at the 57 in grades 7 and 8, and maybe one in every 10 or worse of those is both focused and decently centered with no PD. Same for the 56. A lot of okay 8-ish graded examples, but very few where the eye just says "dead nuts centered" at first sight. The 53B, 62, 63, and 65, same thing. I nearly had a heart attack when I first laid eyes on these centering chimeras, for example...
Well done Matt. Love your '65. That card is never centered and if so contains multiple fish eyes along the pink name plate. You avoided both pitfalls. Impressive trio to say the least.
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Thanks. It's so enjoyable to strive for consistency in a set, be it a player or year set. When the cards are seen together and all share the same aesthetic attributes (i.e., centering, color, no PD, whatever one prefers) it becomes a true case of a whole that is greater than the simple sum of its parts. For example here's the 52 next to the 67; when viewed alongside those others above the uniformity of the look they share really clicks.
Thx, I recently had the pleasure of hearing from that 52 Mantle's original owning family. It was amazing to hear that the patriarch of the family pulled that very card from a pack in 1952, and they kept it as a treasured piece all those years, and graded it themselves before putting it up for auction. So it's only had one prior owner. I open a lot of 80s wax for fun and procrastination, and it blows me away to see how routinely the cards are off center, so the odds of pulling a Mick like that back in 1952...what a special moment that was in terms of card odds. And how extra lucky that the boy who pulled it loved it so much to preserve it through time without it ever getting lost or thrown away. I have an 84 and 85 box mostly open on my desk right now and literally not one card is dead centered.
Had the rare pleasure of looking through a gentleman's collection recently, which consisted of complete sets from 48 to present day. They were in binders and looked amazing, to see such aesthetic consistency altogether like that, page after page. It was such a pleasure to see how he chose every single card so that the look was perfectly consistent. To think how much time he invested selecting each card. I have a ton of admiration and respect for year-set builders like that, and then there are those who tackle multiple year-sets. Just sticking to The Mick and Mattingly is hard enough!
Originally posted by: DM23HOF Thanks, KC. Yeah, that '60 is sneaky tough. We really don't see high eye appeal Mantles that are also grade 8 and up too often. I've seen some private offerings for technical grades that high but at the price they command, I find it imperative not to settle. Would rather pay a higher premium for a sharp card that has both the technical and the aesthetics, the latter being the biggest factor, for me. For example some of the 8s of the 60, 57, and 56 especially just don't do it for me, because the corners carry them to that grade, but there are either PD, focus, or centering issues. The population report data can be very deceiving in that regard, because where there are X-many in Grade Y, how many in that grade are really stellar...probably way fewer than we'd think. I look at the 57 in grades 7 and 8, and maybe one in every 10 or worse of those is both focused and decently centered with no PD. Same for the 56. A lot of okay 8-ish graded examples, but very few where the eye just says "dead nuts centered" at first sight. The 53B, 62, 63, and 65, same thing. I nearly had a heart attack when I first laid eyes on these centering chimeras, for example...
Beautiful cards and that '58 is awesome. When did you pick that one up - recently or have you had it? I agree that the eye appeal is first and foremost what I look for these days - earlier collecting days it was about corners being razor sharp. Now that I have picked up a rookie for Mantle I am actually a bit relieved and can look for well centered examples of the years I need to finish the run and not feel rushed. I think '57 and '62 will be the toughest challenges, but luckily most on the board here have already tackled those for their collections so prices might get better.
Originally posted by: DM23HOF Thanks. It's so enjoyable to strive for consistency in a set, be it a player or year set. When the cards are seen together and all share the same aesthetic attributes (i.e., centering, color, no PD, whatever one prefers) it becomes a true case of a whole that is greater than the simple sum of its parts. For example here's the 52 next to the 67; when viewed alongside those others above the uniformity of the look they share really clicks.
Luckily for you the security at the Louisville Slugger museum was top notch while I was there
Neat story about the card and it being in the same collectors hands the entire time from pack opening until it got graded. Was thinking the other day about if you could go back in time and grab some 52 Topps back in the day how would you protect them so they would stay in the same shape?
As a boy I remember often daydreaming about going back in time to buy packs of older cards. One time, in 1987, my cousins and I found that one of our local candy stores was selling '85 cello packs from one cello box they had left over and just found. We thought it was the most awesome thing ever. I remember pulling the Saberhagen and a Gooden and it was a major thrill. Ah, those halcyon days!
DM23HOF, are we related ? Just kidding, but back in 84-85 my cousin and I found a stationary store that still had 1981 boxes of T, F & D and we bought them all. Got a lot of the error cards from F & D.
DM23HOF...wow..im very partial to centered '65s..i can't see how yours can be improved..and no words for the '52 and awesome story to go with it...its great looking and then the background of it....when i see or obtain a vintage card in that condition of think of how it was pulled from a pack at some point....great story and to think how it was kept in that condition....thanks and please continue sharing
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I do the same and save so much money by buying a centered PSA 6 or 7 for HOF rookies vs 8 or 9. The price difference is amazing. Great cards. Please keep posting your other "dead nuts centered"
DM23HOF..I'll see your '58 and ...well, just see match it with another 8....There are better ones out there (just look at the top of this page, gee whiz) but Im totally happy with this one, its centering and sharpness...Its just a nice clean solid card...simple and still attractive in design....I don't think theres a reason to go for a 9. It would be chasing the flip and would have to match it aesthetically.
BTW...I think 5-6 of us (who have been actively posting) have really been bidding against each other a lot this past year. Not to mention the other collectors and then the buyer(s) out there...yes, I mean you ..and of course the shillers etc. (diff thread)
Good news ..for you guys is that Im pretty much done with my Basic (+) Mantle run. So will be bowing out of the auction race. I guess Ill be upgrading here and there. Just let me know if you really have ur eyes on something and Ill most likely just sit it out. vs driving prices up....
Bad news...is that I think the '52 market has passed me by and my Mantle run will have to be without. Im prob priced out of the 6-8's and unless I find that 3 like KC just got (or DM23's 4.5..hint hint, Im out...oh well...Kind of empty feeling but Im very happy with the rest that I do have....oh, and I still have some really nice ones that I haven't posted yet...stay tuned..
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Great centering on the '58 - don't know where you guys keep finding these gems. Still need that one along with '57 centered and I will be very close to having my run close to being done in PSA 8 or better(except for 1952 and 1953 which might be a tough sale to the family and the bank . Looking forward to seeing the other pickups you mentioned - great stuff.
I agree...the 58 is gorgeous and so tough to find centered like that..I got lucky to get mine when I did. I plan to update my mantle collection next week and I'm crossing my fingers that one of my cards bumped...doubt it, but hey, won't happen if you don't try...but in the end it's not about the slab as much as it is the eye appeal for me..Like Matt, Keith and others, much rather have the better looking lower grade example for a much better value.
That '58 looks great. I completely agree that an "upgrade" would be in flip only and not overall eye appeal. Very clean card. Add that to the list of cards I want when I jump Jeff in the waiting line
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Seems like our line is growing still. Hopefully you guys have kids and have to buy bicycles, XBox 1's, and dollhouses for Christmas depleting your funds so I can grab a few. Wait - I have kids so what am I saying? Guessing Junior gets some PSA cards for Christmas
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..and thats the nicest 3 you'll ever see...cl*****ic example where the card doesn't match the flip
Let me be the first to say congrats!!...who was foolish enough to sell that to you (esp. anywhere near 3 prices)...thats way to nice to be in my collection...
..and thats the nicest 3 you'll ever see...cl*****ic example where the card doesn't match the flip
Don't know him well enough, but he tried to sell me some Bonds refractors and a few Pokemon cards as well
Jeff
Card Country
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And I heard he took diet Mountain Dew in trade...
Jeff
I am bringing it with me next week - don't worry
Alright everyone ......keep moving...nothing to see here....just my broken heart
Enjoy guys....and Happy Thanksgiving!!
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A long time ago I pretty much only collected early 70s on up...a generation thing....then I got the '64 Rose which immediately became one of my favorites...the block lettering, rookie trophy. it all just looked perfect...Now I can say the same about Mantles '64...the coloring and the block lettering...plus the centering on this one...It just looks clean and neat.....one person here even bought it without my knowledge....Im going to keep it for now...
Enjoy guys....and Happy Thanksgiving!!
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Agreed. Its in my top 5 Mantle cards. A sharp and centered 9. Wow.
KC..dont worry, I commented about the "staring poster" thru PM.
graygator...you can feel free to post/share on here or thru a different thread, Nov pickups..thanks for the kind words.
Ok, the next one Ill have to give credit to JFKheat...never really knew or appreciated Red Heart cards until I happened upon his thread of his collection. Its awesome and you should def scroll thru his.
I got this one while looking for a '54 card when the Red Hearts really caught my eye. With Mantle prices getting crazy this may be the only '54 that Ill ever have vs Bowman. But in my opinion its a great looking card. Maybe a little off T/B but great L/R. Looked even better once I got it in hand.
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dberk12....just read your msg....ive never really looked at 64s until rose then mantle...i like my rose....ill try to post it for you to decide..gotta scan it ect....and i agree with you, tough to find but when you finally find a good one, then they really look good...centering with the block lettering etc
If you had a collectorfocus site you could link directly to each card or to the entire collection. And I could more easily see what's on my want list.
Jeff
Card Country
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Heres my next Mantle..the '57..difficult to find centered or crisp...this is ok...there are better ones out there but with prices where they are, (no chance I get a 9) Im ok with this....Ill upgrade if one ever comes around...and like all Mantles, great to look at...I hope you guys enjoy
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Gonna be tough improving on that 57 Mantle.
Seriously. You are hemorrhaging sweet vintage cards right now. That '57 Mantle is much better than any I have seen for sale for a while. Now that you seem to be proficient using your photo bucket keep 'em coming!
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
-George F. Will
Jeff
Card Country
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his 60 is in my top 5, maybe top 3
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
I am ecstatic to report that one of those condition rare 8.5 beauties of the infamously tough 1960 card just became part of the Mantle run I've been painstakingly curating this year. Along with an 8.5 of the elusive and also PD-ridden 1963. Should have pics soon.
Even more pumped to have recently landed a 7.5 example of the 1956 that is literally 50/50 all around, trouncing every 8 I've owned and seen over the years, even my 8.5s. Very pumped about this card and look forward to unveiling the whole project in the near future.
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...I haven't looked at my '60 in awhile (thought it was a nice one) but now you have me worried
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But what's next? The '53 Yamakatsu or the '59 Yoo-hoo (with or without the tab)?
Yes, that 1960 is as tough as the toughest of his basic cards-- what's interesting about it is that aside from the usual centering issues, the card suffers from PD in the red, a "caved in" look to his face in some cases due to the red ink registration, and also myriad focus and print issues (i.e., that dreaded horizontal line) in the main image pane.
I am ecstatic to report that one of those condition rare 8.5 beauties of the infamously tough 1960 card just became part of the Mantle run I've been painstakingly curating this year. Along with an 8.5 of the elusive and also PD-ridden 1963. Should have pics soon.
Even more pumped to have recently landed a 7.5 example of the 1956 that is literally 50/50 all around, trouncing every 8 I've owned and seen over the years, even my 8.5s. Very pumped about this card and look forward to unveiling the whole project in the near future.
Matt - you picked up a 1960 Mantle in an 8.5? Cannot wait to see it, and that card above an 8 is a unicorn - just don't see them ever. There is one BVG 8.5 that has been for sale for a while that is a beauty, but something tells me it won't cross to to PSA - if so it would have already been purchased. Looking forward to seeing the 56 centered as well - such a tough card. You should be about done with the Mantle run now correct? I am thinking that while doing a Mantle run I might do a Nolan Ryan one as well - would be fun and a WHOLE lot cheaper as well
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Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
-George F. Will
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Had the rare pleasure of looking through a gentleman's collection recently, which consisted of complete sets from 48 to present day. They were in binders and looked amazing, to see such aesthetic consistency altogether like that, page after page. It was such a pleasure to see how he chose every single card so that the look was perfectly consistent. To think how much time he invested selecting each card. I have a ton of admiration and respect for year-set builders like that, and then there are those who tackle multiple year-sets. Just sticking to The Mick and Mattingly is hard enough!
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Thanks, KC. Yeah, that '60 is sneaky tough. We really don't see high eye appeal Mantles that are also grade 8 and up too often. I've seen some private offerings for technical grades that high but at the price they command, I find it imperative not to settle. Would rather pay a higher premium for a sharp card that has both the technical and the aesthetics, the latter being the biggest factor, for me. For example some of the 8s of the 60, 57, and 56 especially just don't do it for me, because the corners carry them to that grade, but there are either PD, focus, or centering issues. The population report data can be very deceiving in that regard, because where there are X-many in Grade Y, how many in that grade are really stellar...probably way fewer than we'd think. I look at the 57 in grades 7 and 8, and maybe one in every 10 or worse of those is both focused and decently centered with no PD. Same for the 56. A lot of okay 8-ish graded examples, but very few where the eye just says "dead nuts centered" at first sight. The 53B, 62, 63, and 65, same thing. I nearly had a heart attack when I first laid eyes on these centering chimeras, for example...
Beautiful cards and that '58 is awesome. When did you pick that one up - recently or have you had it? I agree that the eye appeal is first and foremost what I look for these days - earlier collecting days it was about corners being razor sharp. Now that I have picked up a rookie for Mantle I am actually a bit relieved and can look for well centered examples of the years I need to finish the run and not feel rushed. I think '57 and '62 will be the toughest challenges, but luckily most on the board here have already tackled those for their collections so prices might get better.
Thanks. It's so enjoyable to strive for consistency in a set, be it a player or year set. When the cards are seen together and all share the same aesthetic attributes (i.e., centering, color, no PD, whatever one prefers) it becomes a true case of a whole that is greater than the simple sum of its parts. For example here's the 52 next to the 67; when viewed alongside those others above the uniformity of the look they share really clicks.
Luckily for you the security at the Louisville Slugger museum was top notch while I was there
Neat story about the card and it being in the same collectors hands the entire time from pack opening until it got graded. Was thinking the other day about if you could go back in time and grab some 52 Topps back in the day how would you protect them so they would stay in the same shape?
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Hope you guys enjoy.....
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Good news ..for you guys is that Im pretty much done with my Basic (+) Mantle run. So will be bowing out of the auction race. I guess Ill be upgrading here and there. Just let me know if you really have ur eyes on something and Ill most likely just sit it out. vs driving prices up....
Bad news...is that I think the '52 market has passed me by and my Mantle run will have to be without. Im prob priced out of the 6-8's and unless I find that 3 like KC just got (or DM23's 4.5..hint hint, Im out...oh well...Kind of empty feeling but Im very happy with the rest that I do have....oh, and I still have some really nice ones that I haven't posted yet...stay tuned..
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
-George F. Will