1830 half dime

Nap · November 17, 2015 8:01AM

Can anyone confirm if this is variety LM-5?

And feel free to venture a guess on the grade.

Unknown · November 17, 2015 8:04AM

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winky · November 17, 2015 8:27AM

XF45, lots of west on eagle wing.

Barndog · November 17, 2015 8:48AM

1830 LM-5, for sure. R-6 these days.

If it straight grades, and I am not sure that it would, but you really can't tell from photos, of course (looks like old clean/wipe ... on reverse especially), I would say VF35 to XF40.

My VF35 is below for comparison

ms70 · November 17, 2015 8:52AM

I'm going with 30.

Barndog, we need you to start a new thread on that coin & tell us more about it!

Barndog · November 17, 2015 9:16AM

had to walk the dog...

some additional information as people always want to ask what something is worth.

The past three years, I have witnessed a significant shift toward quality by half dime specialists. It used to be that nice examples of a rare die marriage would fit the bill. Still works that way for some collectors/specialists, but most of the active ones now demand PCGS graded examples.

Prices for the rarities have followed this trend. Scudzy and problematic examples of rare die marriages that are left raw used to sell for four figures some of the time. Now, it would be amazing to find a problematic R6 sell for a few hundred dollars.

In the last few Perkins auctions, we saw record prices for rare die marriages. The record prices were for PCGS holdered coins graded AU and better, for the most part. CAC stickers added to the prices realized, IMO.

For this specific die marriage, I tend to believe that the later die state examples (like mine) that have the obverse cud tend to attract better prices than the OP's early die state example. The difference could be MULTIPLES, not just 25 to 75% kind of difference! It's all about what collectors want.

I could go on about this coin, CBHD pricing, auctions, and more, but really don't have the time and without a "preview" function any longer, I have no clue how this is going to look and I KNOW that it is a PITA to read paragraphs that are not visually broken up (since I shy away from posting much since the changeover to the "improved" forum)

Barndog · November 17, 2015 9:53AM

so how do you put breaks between sentences/paragraphs? Frustrating me enough to stay away

asheland · November 18, 2015 2:49AM

It works properly in the quick reply.

The other reply bunches it up.

It's frustrating.

Nap · November 18, 2015 10:38PM

Thanks for your insight!

CaptHenway · November 18, 2015 10:45PM

Lot of luster on the OP coin though the strike is weak.

RichieURich · November 19, 2015 12:36AM

Hi Nap, congratulations on your find! Nice coin!

johnny9434 · November 19, 2015 5:29AM

ill go xf 49. nice coin to

Walkerfan · November 19, 2015 6:49AM

Originally posted by: RichieURich

Hi Nap, congratulations on your find! Nice coin!

Splendid toning on that piece.

Barndog · November 19, 2015 8:43AM

Originally posted by: asheland
It works properly in the quick reply.
The other reply bunches it up.
It's frustrating.

thanks for taking the time to answer. I will give it a shot sometime!

asheland · November 20, 2015 5:16AM

Vieques54 · November 20, 2015 5:40AM

Nice half dime. I collect H-10 too, working on the 1929-1837 set now with varieties .

MrHalfDime · November 20, 2015 5:57AM

Originally posted by: Vieques54
Nice half dime. I collect H-10 too, working on the 1929-1837 set now with varieties .

Welcome to the forum! You picked a nice series to collect, the Capped Bust half dimes from 1829 - 1837. Are you collecting 'varieties', as in the Red Book, or are you collecting die marriages, as outlined in "Federal Half Dimes 1792 - 1837", by Russell Logan and John McCloskey? Either way, you will enjoy the series.

Vieques54 · November 20, 2015 8:06AM

Both, As I'm a variety collector in general. I collect bust half cents , three cent pieces , both Bust and Seated Half dimes. I also collect other series but at present working on the three series above. My main focus right now is the red book varieties of the Bust Half dimes. But will admit that a coin with eye appeal are always in my sights. I have the Valentine book and looking for a copy of Federal Half Dimes. There's not a lot of reference books on these little gems. I'm sure there's more varieties not yet attributed still to be found. Thanks for the warm welcome look forward to seeing some nice specimens here.

Vieques54 · November 20, 2015 8:16AM

I did manage to score a nice Breen 2985 1830 C over Horizontal C American awhile back. I will have to post it. See what you all think. I just realized that I have an LM-5 1830 also, just did the attribution on it and it compares to the OP coin as well as the info. found on the web.

I need to learn how to up load images here.

Vieques54 · November 21, 2015 9:06AM

I like to ask Mr half dime a question regarding the 1830 Breen # 2985 . Since reading this post I have been attributing my 7 specimens in my collection. Since I don't have a copy of the L&M Guide to Federal Half dimes reference book, I've been using a Web site on attribution of Capped Bust Half Dimes. This site has been extremely helpful and is well written. Is the Breen # above a real variety ? I have not found any information other then that in the Breen encyclopedia .

I have two 1830's one is the coin in question above that I believe to be an LM -12 obv. 4 rev. J (R-6).

An 1830 LM -5 obv.-1 rev.- J (R-6)

An 1829 LM -13 obv.-6 rev.- G (R-1)

An 1831 LM-7 obv.-3 rev.-M (R-2)

An 1832 LM-12 obv.-5 rev.- X (R-2)

An 1835 LM- 8 obv.-4 rev.-DD (R-2)

An 1836 LM -2 obv.- 1 rev.-. FF (R-3)

The 1836 has an die crack on the obv. That runs through the obv. From 11k-5 passing on the west side of the 6.

I'm sure a later die state on the obv. Die.

1830 half dime

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