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1904 Indian Cent with odd rim

Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
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The rim at the date appears to have some raised material that I first thought were early stage die breaks before cuds formed.
However the details of it are so smooth that they almost appear to be detail from another design.
The rim is odd as well appears to be shallow in the middle at the area affected.

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's been removed from a "Lucky Penny"

    aluminum ring......



    Not an error, but damaged now......
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭
    Looks like someone might have been playing with a vise.
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  • Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: FredWeinberg
    It's been removed from a "Lucky Penny"
    aluminum ring......

    Not an error, but damaged now......



    Ahhh, so pressed in the ring then stamped with its design, later removed.

    That answers that. Thanks Fred!
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭
    The Man has spoken. Good info to know.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Fred.... great analysis... Cheers, RickO
  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: FredWeinberg
    It's been removed from a "Lucky Penny"
    aluminum ring......

    Not an error, but damaged now......


    ditto
    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Jinx86

    Originally posted by: FredWeinberg

    It's been removed from a "Lucky Penny"

    aluminum ring......



    Not an error, but damaged now......






    Ahhh, so pressed in the ring then stamped with its design, later removed.



    That answers that. Thanks Fred!





    I'm glad you got that answer, 'cause otherwise I'd still be scratchin' my head over that one.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just to add a bit of info -



    those strange 'things' you see on

    the flattened rims are letters/design

    of the die that pressed it in the aluminum

    outer 'ring'.
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And I was going to guess "aliens." Fred sure takes the fun out of things.
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  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fred,

    Thanks for the priceless insight.

    OINK
  • ThePennyLadyThePennyLady Posts: 4,516 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What Fred said. The penny is placed in a blank (usually aluminum) ring, then the design is stamped onto the ring, and sometimes it overlaps the coin.
    Charmy Harker
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    https://thepennylady.com/
  • winkywinky Posts: 1,671 ✭
    Thanks Fred I might have guessed something else so that was good info. for me.

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