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Should the BST be change to the BSL for Buy, Sell, Link?

Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
I try to buy off there but just get turned off when it takes me to a auction. I know it's a way of showing where your coin is beaning sold. But if I cant buy it now I'll just pass on it. Anyone else fell like this? or I'm I just getting to old and inpatient now to wait for it in auction....... image


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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i dont know about the name change but you are not far off.



    from a buyer standpoint, i see this but from a seller standpoint; not nearly enough action to sell on the bst alone, at least for me.



    a lot of people seem to prefer to pay more via ebay. dont know why.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agree with the above. Any coin listed on the BST should be available for direct purchase from the forum member that listed the coin in the BST. It should not be used as an advertisement for selling a coin in another venue. Listing coins on eBay is okay if the forum member is willing to end the eBay auction early for a direct sale to another forum member.

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  • claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭
    I think it's OK if the post is for a E-Bay or other auction venue link as long as it states that in the title line. Those that are not interested in auction sites can simply ignore the post.


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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: claychaser

    I think it's OK if the post is for a E-Bay or other auction venue link as long as it states that in the title line. Those that are not interested in auction sites can simply ignore the post.




    Sounds fair. As long as the title makes it clear that it's for sale in another venue I have no problem with it.

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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: claychaser
    I think it's OK if the post is for a E-Bay or other auction venue link as long as it states that in the title line. Those that are not interested in auction sites can simply ignore the post.


    This seems reasonable to me.

    I can say that I have put some of my eBay listings on the BST during the last hour and it sure increased the bids image

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: PerryHall

    Agree with the above. Any coin listed on the BST should be available for direct purchase from the forum member that listed the coin in the BST. It should not be used as an advertisement for selling a coin in another venue. Listing coins on eBay is okay if the forum member is willing to end the eBay auction early for a direct sale to another forum member.




    This is the way I'd like to see it.

    Lance.
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    I fail to see what the problem is. So what if people want to post links to their Ebay auctions? I don't see how it harms anyone.
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  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On three different areas where I'm a buyer/seller; ordinance, ww2 militaria & automobiles it is accepted & expected that sellers (provided they understand each platform's rules) will use as many venues as they see fit.



    I think unless you see FSHO that you should expect any coin to be for sale everywhere. Frankly, partly because there is no moderator in BST, I wonder if a lot of people have lost interest.



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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2

    I fail to see what the problem is. So what if people want to post links to their Ebay auctions? I don't see how it harms anyone.




    There's no problem if the post title states that it's listed on eBay, Heritage, etc. Otherwise you are wasting everyone's time who opens your thread only to discover that they can't buy your coin through the BST venue.

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know that I, personally, don't bother clicking on "just links".

    If someone goes to that effort, I appreciate it if there is also a picture of the coin as well.



    I figure that, if they can put a picture on ebay, they can put one on the BST thread as well. If not, then they don't want/need my potential business.



    I've said it before in threads and I stand by it.



    And, if they are using GC or some other auction house, then they can take the time to link to a picture there....else, once again, I don't need to go look.



    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought that established BST forum etiquette already stipulated that eBay listings should be described as such in the title?



    As long as that is done, I don't have a problem with it, particularly if the link is either to a true auction (i.e., very low start, no reserve), or to one the seller is willing to end early and selll here.



    I've often cross-promoted my true auctions on BST (with "eBay" mentioned in the title, of course), and would be very disappointed if this option were no longer available.

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  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have noticed a distinct drop-off in buyers that I usually gravitate to. Lots of eBay links . . .other links . . .



    Cool. I hope it works for you. But it isn't what I use the BST for . . . . . I go there to look at Board coins that I want to buy . . .



    Drunner
  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I usually try to put coins up on the BST before they go other places, but since the upgrade, I lost all the pictures in one post I had running and have a hard time making legible posts. May be why others have been posting links lately.
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: DRUNNER

    I have noticed a distinct drop-off in buyers that I usually gravitate to. Lots of eBay links . . .other links . . .



    Cool. I hope it works for you. But it isn't what I use the BST for . . . . . I go there to look at Board coins that I want to buy . . .



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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with PerryHall and Claychaser.... The BST is a great venue, but I try to avoid

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  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Type2
    I try to buy off there but just get turned off when it takes me to a auction. I know it's a way of showing where your coin is beaning sold. But if I cant buy it now I'll just pass on it. Anyone else fell like this? or I'm I just getting to old and inpatient now to wait for it in auction....... image



    The links in BST are advertisements ..increasingly more of them ..they should be treated as such .. and charged as ... like banner ads
  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: bestdayThe links in BST are advertisements ..increasingly more of them ..they should be treated as such .. and charged as ... like banner ads


    Honestly I'm glad someone brought this up, because I think PCGS needs to take a hard stance on the BST. It has become a place for advertising one's business as opposed to directly listing coins for sale. I used to love the BST, the simplicity, and a lion's share of my purchases were from there...now I hardly buy anything there because there are so many spam auction links and hodgepodge, that it is too much of a pain to try to decipher what's interesting and what's not, and I hardly, if ever, sell off anything there anymore (and I used to sell off a lot of my upgrades/etc. there before to other collectors).



    If people want to advertise their eBay auction or Great Collections auctions or any other auctions or their website with inventory, they should buy Advertising space on PCGS.com.



    The BST board should be a place where people directly list and buy/sell coins from each other (dealer and/or collector), but linking to auctions is inappropriate SPAM and should be banned.



    Of course this response has been building in me so I'm quite passionate about this position image



    /mdg.

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,234 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: hchcoin

    Originally posted by: claychaser

    I think it's OK if the post is for a E-Bay or other auction venue link as long as it states that in the title line. Those that are not interested in auction sites can simply ignore the post.




    This seems reasonable to me.



    I can say that I have put some of my eBay listings on the BST during the last hour and it sure increased the bids image







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  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: claychaser

    I think it's OK if the post is for a E-Bay or other auction venue link as long as it states that in the title line. Those that are not interested in auction sites can simply ignore the post.




    That's like saying it's OK to post currency in a coin thread, people can just ignore it...



    That logic defies the whole purpose of topical message boards. A BST board is specifically for conducting business there, not to use it to advertise. That's SPAM.



    If PCGS.com wants to add a new thread called "Auction and Storefront Links" ASL, then that would be a great place to put eBay and other advertisements.



    But wait...PCGS.com sells paid advertising space and should charge people who want to advertise their stores or auctions.



    The intent of a BST board is to help freely facilitate person to person direct transactions, that person could be a dealer or a collector, but there is a coin for sale on the BST exclusively, and there is an asking price (not an auction).



    My 10 cents on this topic image



    /mdg.
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ebay is awesome and links to it are fine, it is a coin isn't it?
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yup, I feel the same way. Hate it when it likes to the bay !!! :-(
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