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Saw Dan Carr's $5000, 2.5 oz. slug at the Denver show today.

CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
Very impressive! The owl logo is fantastic!
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,764 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's quite a premium over melt. I'll try to get one on the secondary market in a couple of years although if PCGS or NGC starts slabbing them their value will certainly increase.

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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    Holy Simoleys! Must be a heck of an owl logo.



    Any evidence of a 2015 Carr - Emslie Colorado gold half eagle at the show you were at?
  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no picture!?!?!?!?!
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tease



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  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: jessewvu
    no picture!?!?!?!?!


    Just picture in your mind a big, giant owl on a $5,000. gold coin.
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone have an image?
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  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    Working on getting the pic
  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Super nice coin. I'll save the photo to look at and keep the $5,000.

    image
  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    This was his final version.

    image
  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's cool Big Poppa but I like the Liberty version better than the Pike's Peak version, jmo though.
  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    That's interesting, because I feel the opposite way .. Lol
    I have most of his fractional small gold with the LIBERTY on the head band, but I like the Pike's Peak reference for the CG pieces, since they are minted with Colorado sourced gold ..

    Quick question??
    How do I remove the image link when posting a picture as you have done ??
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,764 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone notice the second coin gas a $5000 face value? Strange choice.

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  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    I think it may be due to the asking price of the coin, based more on current gold prices .. Not sure though as I don't know what is the current asking price .
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice. Perhaps my favorite DCarr design so far, except for one or two of the parody State quarters.

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  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: lordmarcovan
    Nice. Perhaps my favorite DCarr design so far, except for one or two of the parody State quarters.


    I think I might have to agree with you Lord M ..
    It is just a gorgeous piece and can only imagine how beautiful it must look in hand ????

  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Big Poppa, I delete the URL that is shown in your photo.
  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Bullsitter
    Big Poppa, I delete the URL that is shown in your photo.


    If I edit the URL out, won't the picture disappear??
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,533 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Bigpoppas
    Originally posted by: Bullsitter
    Big Poppa, I delete the URL that is shown in your photo.


    If I edit the URL out, won't the picture disappear??


    No, it just cleans it up a bit (less words {url})
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  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Bullsitter
    That's cool Big Poppa but I like the Liberty version better than the Pike's Peak version, jmo though.


    The other changes are the owl is slightly taller, varied star sizes/placement and a small DC logo, besides the Liberty change to Pike's Peak and the $50 to $5000 denomination amount..
  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: oih82w8
    Originally posted by: Bigpoppas
    Originally posted by: Bullsitter
    Big Poppa, I delete the URL that is shown in your photo.


    If I edit the URL out, won't the picture disappear??


    No, it just cleans it up a bit (less words {url})


    Thanks guys for trying to help this newb..
    I just tried to edit it out and it removed the pic, so I'll have to experiment in one of my own threads ..
  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    [.......................................................................][...............................................................][url]



    Delete the first section and the [url] at the end. Paste the second [.............................................]
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Anybody got change for a $7,500?
  • BigpoppasBigpoppas Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Bullsitter
    [.......................................................................][...............................................................][url]

    Delete the first section and the [url] at the end. Paste the second [.............................................]


    Thanks for all the help .. Got it now image
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow... nice chunk of gold... I like Dan's designs.... The stars are different also...

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been having mixed feelings about Dan's stuff lately. I do like a good percentage of his offerings and I've bought a fair number of them, in multiples.


    On the other hand, several of both his silver and gold issues have had problems with dark toning, hologram delamination and/or unattractive spots caused by impurities in the metal stock which then turn into a major liability for the coin. His premiums are always very healthy and his customers allow his work to continue by paying these premiums, so I would expect an effort towards higher quality.


    The other thing that's turned me off is that many times, some of his distributors bring special issues to a show when they are not available on his website and then they are pretty much gone when you look for them. Like this slug or other less expensive limited mintage issues, for instance. This causes me some misgivings.


    That being said, Dan is continually innovating, frequently controversial, and the result is that some of his pieces wouldn't otherwise exist without his loyal customer base taking a chance now and then. I suppose that supporting innovation is always going to be wrought with some glitches here and there, but I think that this is the type of feedback he needs to keep his wheels on the road.

    So, Captain - did you buy one?
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,193 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can someone advise me how to add paragraph breaks on a post?
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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if this Dan Carr guy has ever worked for the U.S. Mint, what a talent he has been given.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These are great looking pieces Dan! The octagonal design, owl, size and territorial issuer go well together.



    When will these be available? I didn't see them on your website.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: HighRelief
    I wonder if this Dan Carr guy has ever worked for the U.S. Mint, what a talent he has been given.


    He designed the U.S. Mint New York and Rhode Island state quarters.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: jmski52
    Can someone advise me how to add paragraph breaks on a post?


    See this thread
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Still don't like that he makes counterfeit coins. I don't care how you put it, without the word copy it's wrong. But if you know the right people, IMHO.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The enormous owl is standing on a crescent moon as if it were not a sphere, and the stars are between the dark side of the moon and we observers on the earth.











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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Baley
    The enormous owl is standing on a crescent moon as if it were not a sphere, and the stars are between the dark side of the moon and we observers on the earth.


    It's a nice artistic look - like the DreamWorks logo.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i like the slug but not the price.
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When's the $5 version coming?
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I purchased this 50 Gold slug several years ago because I like the design... image



    1852 Augustus Humbert $50 Gold Commemorative (2008) Proof Restrike

    imageimage

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Stuart
    I purchased this 50 Gold slug several years ago because I like the design... image


    That's a nice looking piece too.

    Who made that one?
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Zoins

    Originally posted by: Stuart

    I purchased this 50 Gold slug several years ago because I like the design... image




    That's a nice looking piece too.



    Who made that one?




    I think this was the Ron Landis/ Monaco Rare Coins collaboration. It is a beauty



    I want the Carr piece. The owl is a special symbol to me. Matter of fact I have one on my arm right now



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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a nice looking piece too. Who made that one?




    Zoins, In reply to your above quoted question, according to the following 2008 Humbert $50 Gold Restrike Link the slugs were struck by Ron Landis.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The owl is a special symbol to me. Matter of fact I have one on my arm right now


    That's very cool. It'd be great to see a pic image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,764 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Zoins

    The owl is a special symbol to me. Matter of fact I have one on my arm right now




    That's very cool. It'd be great to see a pic image


    There are pics shown earlier in this thread.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: PerryHall
    Originally posted by: Zoins
    The owl is a special symbol to me. Matter of fact I have one on my arm right now


    That's very cool. It'd be great to see a pic image

    There are pics shown earlier in this thread.


    My impression is that it wasn't he coin on his arm. How often do you have coins on your arm?
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,764 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Justacommeman

    Originally posted by: Zoins

    Originally posted by: Stuart

    I purchased this 50 Gold slug several years ago because I like the design... image




    That's a nice looking piece too.



    Who made that one?




    I think this was the Ron Landis/ Monaco Rare Coins collaboration. It is a beauty





    I bought two of the Landis/Monaco gold slugs from a forum member here for a modest premium over melt value. They were slabbed by NGC and graded Gem Proof without a numerical grade. I can not afford one of the originals so these were a good substitute costing a small fraction of what the originals cost. I figured it was a neat way to buy some gold bullion and to also get a very impressive coin.



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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: jmski52

    I've been having mixed feelings about Dan's stuff lately. I do like a good percentage of his offerings and I've bought a fair number of them, in multiples.





    On the other hand, several of both his silver and gold issues have had problems with dark toning, hologram delamination and/or unattractive spots caused by impurities in the metal stock which then turn into a major liability for the coin. His premiums are always very healthy and his customers allow his work to continue by paying these premiums, so I would expect an effort towards higher quality.





    The other thing that's turned me off is that many times, some of his distributors bring special issues to a show when they are not available on his website and then they are pretty much gone when you look for them. Like this slug or other less expensive limited mintage issues, for instance. This causes me some misgivings.





    That being said, Dan is continually innovating, frequently controversial, and the result is that some of his pieces wouldn't otherwise exist without his loyal customer base taking a chance now and then. I suppose that supporting innovation is always going to be wrought with some glitches here and there, but I think that this is the type of feedback he needs to keep his wheels on the road.



    So, Captain - did you buy one?




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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's another gorgeous restrike that I'd like to eventually own. image



    1855 Kellogg $50 Gold Restrike (2001)


    imageimage

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is there a precedent for the geometric design around the perimeter of this new slug? It seems dcarr relies on clip-art looking design elements too often. No doubting his technical skill. Just don't like the "had to put something there" approach to design.










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  • Originally posted by: Weiss



    Is there a precedent for the geometric design around the perimeter of this new slug? It seems dcarr relies on clip-art looking design elements too often. No doubting his technical skill. Just don't like the "had to put something there" approach to design.







    Here is a link to some images of gold coins in the same shape and some history.Text

    Some of the old independent gold was this shape.













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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Bullsitter
    Super nice medal. I'll save the photo to look at and keep the $5,000.


    Bingo! Deja vu all over again re: Franklin Mint, Danbury Mint, Medallic Arts Company, etc., etc., - whatever.
    Oh, and BTW Bullsitter, FIFY.

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  • Some of the old gold coins by independents was made in this shape. I have often wondered if they did this to copy some of the British coins of the time which had this shape. It does offer something different than the standard round coin. I very much like owls and they are my mothers favorate bird. When I was a kid growing up in AZ we would have owls in our yard all the time. Owls are also very special to Native Americans.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Christos
    Some of the old gold coins by independents was made in this shape. I have often wondered if they did this to copy some of the British coins of the time which had this shape. It does offer something different than the standard round coin. I very much like owls and they are my mothers favorate bird. When I was a kid growing up in AZ we would have owls in our yard all the time. Owls are also very special to Native Americans.


    Seems like both gold $50 slugs and gold fractional coins were made in octagon shapes in the territories.



    What are some period British gold coins that had a similar shape?

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