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UPDATE 1975 George Brett PSA 9 in a Bin

SmokieSmokie Posts: 393 ✭✭✭
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As I mentioned in my last post I was sending the card back to PSA to go through Management review and put a new holder on it. The card still came back a PSA 9, that is twice this card has been graded and reviewed and is still a 9. In my hand the card looks great. I just got lucky and was their when it first listed. Thanks for all your comments. Ron





I picked this George Brett in a bin for $500.00 free shipping and insurance. The best deal I have ever come across on E-bay.



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  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Something does not smell right on that one - that card sells for $2000. Not to mention that bottom edge and left corner look off. Edge goes down and then back up. I will let the experts chime in on this one. Hope it is legit and if so you got a deal.
  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I picked this George Brett in a bin for $500.00 free shipping and insurance. The best deal I have ever come across on E-bay.

    [URL=http://s1115.photobucket.com/user/smokie5053/media/scan0089.jpg.html]image[/URL] >>



    Wow talk about lucky. That's like 75% off. Looks like he bought it from Mastro.

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

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  • dberk12dberk12 Posts: 399 ✭✭
    I will preface my commentary by saying that I am not an expert. It sounds like a great deal but there are a couple of things that don't seem right to me. If you look at the flip the black ink seems to run a little between the two Ts in "Brett" and around the 9 on the grade. The bottom edge of the card and the right edge look trimmed. The distance between the bottom right corner and the edge of the holder is greater than the space between the upper right corner and the holder even though the card appears to be sitting correctly. These are my novice observations and take it for what it is worth. I don't want to pour cold water on your purchase but sometimes if it is too good to be true it is.


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  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    barcode scans right, but doesn't help much these days. used to. anyways, have ya done the flip/flashlight test yet?

    edit: and hoping the best for ya, btw!!!
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    I assume you already have the card in hand to post this.

    You got a great deal I imagine, I suspect this guy doesn't use vcp or have a lot of computer skills. His picture taking is weird , and most of his cards are priced based on prices from several years ago, some are way high that used to sell high. Brett used to sell for 500 and that is what he listed it for
  • belzbelz Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭
    Either it's trimmed and therefore faked or the guy took a real bad picture..do you have the card in hand? What does the bottom edge and corner look like in hand? Best wishes.
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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,608 ✭✭✭✭
    I hope this works out for you. Can you post a link to the eBay auction?
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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the card is right, you got the steal of the year

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Here's the eBay auction.
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  • Arsenal83Arsenal83 Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭
    Hopefully you got it in hand before someone contacts the seller and convinces them to cancel the sale.
  • RynoandBoRynoandBo Posts: 393 ✭✭
    The flips look different to me. The "TT" in Brett touch in the OP scan, but appear to have white separating them in the eBay picture.

    Hope it's real, that would be a great find.
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  • vols1vols1 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭
    You there's a reason Mastro is behind bars right now?

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  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Lock it up.
  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm sorry, but that is not the same card/holder. The OP's pic shows a flip that has TT connected and the the entire font has bleeding especially the certification number. Also, the bottom left corner in the BIN auction has a white touched corner. The pic from the OP doesn't have it.
    Open a case. End of story. >>



    Look at the fish eyes in the S - it's the same card

    The OP flip definitely looks off compared to the auction
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is the same card. Different methods for picturing the card (scanning vs photo, for example) will make the font appear a bit different, but I don't see any red flags on this one, though I could be wrong. This card was graded a long time ago, based on the cert #, and a few years ago $500 for a PSA 9 Brett RC was a strong price. I think Duncan's assessment is spot on.


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  • mikelowell25mikelowell25 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm sorry, but that is not the same card/holder. The OP's pic shows a flip that has TT connected and the the entire font has bleeding especially the certification number. Also, the bottom left corner in the BIN auction has a white touched corner. The pic from the OP doesn't have it.
    Open a case. End of story. >>



    Look at the fish eyes in the S - it's the same card

    The OP flip definitely looks off compared to the auction >>



    Bounce, when you say the "auction" do you mean the ebay auction or the legendary auction?? The pic the OP posted is his own scan--the thickness of the letters on the flip in his scan look different than those of the flip on legendary's website HOWEVER the thickness of the letters on the flip in the eBay listing look like those on legendary's website so I believe it's the same card and flip--the OP's scan just came out a little different than the ebay/legendary scans. (Unless of course the seller counterfeited both the card and the flip and sent him copies of both which would explain why the OP's flip scan looks different than the flip scans in both auctions).
  • addicted2ebayaddicted2ebay Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm guessing the seller listed it by mistake. Looking at there other cards they are priced pretty high. If not and you do get it very nice score!

    Edit: looks like it sold on the 3rd so I'm guessing you have it by now.
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Oh well, I no longer care. image
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh well, I no longer care. image >>



    Lmao! I agree. Let's drink and be merry image

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  • Warriors8Warriors8 Posts: 246
    The font on the flip looks off.
  • StamkosFanStamkosFan Posts: 255 ✭✭✭
    I don't care either. image
  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭
    Some of these comments are hilarious. 'the flip looks off', the TT's are bleeding', 'the left bottom looks trimmed.'

    There is nothing wrong with it. The seller probably goofed. It happens.

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • Warriors8Warriors8 Posts: 246


    << <i>Some of these comments are hilarious. 'the flip looks off', the TT's are bleeding', 'the left bottom looks trimmed.'

    There is nothing wrong with it. The seller probably goofed. It happens. >>


    Look closely and you will see there are problems with the card/holder.
  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Some of these comments are hilarious. 'the flip looks off', the TT's are bleeding', 'the left bottom looks trimmed.'

    There is nothing wrong with it. The seller probably goofed. It happens. >>


    Look closely and you will see there are problems with the card/holder. >>



    I bet you I can find something different with every PSA holder. I have many and they are ALL different.

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think there's a problem with the clarity of the plastic of the holder and the thickness of the cardboard of the card.
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  • Warriors8Warriors8 Posts: 246


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Some of these comments are hilarious. 'the flip looks off', the TT's are bleeding', 'the left bottom looks trimmed.'

    There is nothing wrong with it. The seller probably goofed. It happens. >>


    Look closely and you will see there are problems with the card/holder. >>



    I bet you I can find something different with every PSA holder. I have many and they are ALL different. >>


    Are you sure they haven't been tampered with?
  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Some of these comments are hilarious. 'the flip looks off', the TT's are bleeding', 'the left bottom looks trimmed.'

    There is nothing wrong with it. The seller probably goofed. It happens. >>


    Look closely and you will see there are problems with the card/holder. >>



    I bet you I can find something different with every PSA holder. I have many and they are ALL different. >>


    Are you sure they haven't been tampered with? >>



    lol I doubt someone would tamper with $20 cards image

    IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED

  • DniceDnice Posts: 848
    Congrats. Awesome deal you got.
  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The bar code looks off to me. There are more thick bars than I would expect for a 1975 card.
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  • waxman2745waxman2745 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭
    That's a "high calibur" card right there.
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  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cannot be legit - does not say super duper high end certified on the holder...
  • Warriors8Warriors8 Posts: 246


    << <i>Cannot be legit - does not say super duper high end certified on the holder... >>


    Why the PWCC bashing?
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Looking at there other cards they are priced pretty high. >>



    I think the seller is just not up to date , the hermansk error is priced for what it sold for in the 06/07 time frame , the brett was priced like it was 06/07 also. unfortunately for the seller the brett has gone way up and the hermansk has gone way down so fixed price auctions were probably not the way to go.

    I can't comment on his other cards
  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭
    Mikelowell - yes, the picture in this thread, versus the picture from the eBay link provided, seems like the flip lettering is different but the eBay pic isn't that good
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Some of these comments are hilarious. 'the flip looks off', the TT's are bleeding', 'the left bottom looks trimmed.'

    There is nothing wrong with it. The seller probably goofed. It happens. >>



    image Maybe the seller checked the sale prices of PSA 9s, but mistakenly looked at PSA 8s or PSA 9 OCs.

    BTW, the last time I got a great deal on ebay, I paid for the item immediately, and 10 minutes later the seller canceled my order and relisted the item at a much higher price.
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Cannot be legit - does not say super duper high end certified on the holder... >>


    Why the PWCC bashing? >>



    Sorry - forgot to add a image

    Also, How am I bashing PWCC - I never stated anything about them in my post positive or negative.
  • beagle25beagle25 Posts: 9
    Do you guys really think that's worthy of a 9 as it has two fish eyes and less than 50/50 centering with slight tilt. I would think its more of an 8.5.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    The thing that worries me the most is that bottom cut, wonder what it will look like in person??
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Double post!!
  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you guys really think that's worthy of a 9 as it has two fish eyes and less than 50/50 centering with slight tilt. I would think its more of an 8.5. >>



    I tend to agree on the fish eyes, but they're all over this set - unless they're just enormous, I don't know that PSA really downgrades this issue for them

    I don't think it matters what it's worthy of, it's in a 9 holder - call it a low end 9 if you want but it's a 9 now

    I suspect the line would be around the block if it came back out for sale at anything below $1800-1900

    Nice buy - great timing
  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The fisheyes on this Brett card are nothing compared to some of the 75's I've seen in the same grade.
    I think this is actually a really nice 9. Its hard to find a really nicely centered Brett psa 9, and this one is better than most.
  • Warriors8Warriors8 Posts: 246


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Cannot be legit - does not say super duper high end certified on the holder... >>


    Why the PWCC bashing? >>



    Sorry - forgot to add a image

    Also, How am I bashing PWCC - I never stated anything about them in my post positive or negative. >>


    You were talking about their high end certified sticker in a sarcastic manner.
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Cannot be legit - does not say super duper high end certified on the holder... >>


    Why the PWCC bashing? >>



    Sorry - forgot to add a image

    Also, How am I bashing PWCC - I never stated anything about them in my post positive or negative. >>


    You were talking about their high end certified sticker in a sarcastic manner. >>



    I will politely respond and then consider this topic over with. I never used their name in my post nor called them out. We have been having some good natured banter over sellers who overstate their cards as centered, high end.... in several different conversations and posts on here. If someone takes offense to saying something is certified or high end and feels it points directly at a seller, collector, or other maybe the fact is there is some truth to it and they feel the need to stick up for them.

    Personally I think PWCC has some of the best items available for sale and enjoy seeing their auctions each month and buy a lot from them, and whether it has a sticker or not does not impact my purchasing decision - I try buy the card and not the sticker or stickers in that caseimage Appreciate the info and will make sure I don't use sarcasm in the future since it is not allowed whether intentional or not image
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭


    << <i>Appreciate the info and will make sure I don't use sarcasm in the future since it is not allowed whether intentional or not image >>



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    i will take them both on my 1990 topps john kruk.


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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do find it somewhat interesting how a thread is started in which collectors criticize hyperbole many sellers use when listing cards for sale, yet at the same time there are those who defend that very same practice depending on the seller in question. If anything, it illustrates how subjective this hobby can be, depending on your perspective.


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  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I do find it somewhat interesting how a thread is started in which collectors criticize hyperbole many sellers use when listing cards for sale, yet at the same time there are those who defend that very same practice depending on the seller in question. If anything, it illustrates how subjective this hobby can be, depending on your perspective. >>


    I think the threads are running together, seems to be a comment on this one: Link This thread is strictly about PWCC bashing and sarcasm image Oh, and reasons why kids shouldn't watch Archer even though it's hilarious and a cartoon.
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