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CPG Addition of the 1942-S Jefferson - Ken Frith Specimen

BigDowgieBigDowgie Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭✭
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Ok peeps, how unfair was this addition to the Cherry Picker Guide? The Unique Ken Frith 1942-S Jefferson Nickel!

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Only one known and not officially confirmed by the Mint nor graded by any Grading Company. I make the assumption that this is an attempt at a little publicity to possibly unearth another example! I have to admit, I have been looking for a long time! I hope our host does NOT add this to the Complete Variety Sets!!!!! At least until I find one!

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has PCGS ever added a variety it has yet to grade?

    peacockcoins

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember when it was first sold.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Has PCGS ever added a variety it has yet to grade? >>

    Yes
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I remember when it was first sold. >>

    Any details you can share?
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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ok peeps, how unfair was this addition to the Cherry Picker Guide? The Unique Ken Firth 1942-S Jefferson Nickel!

    imageimage

    Only one known and not officially confirmed by the Mint nor graded by any Grading Company. I make the assumption that this is an attempt at a little publicity to possibly unearth another example! I have to admit, I have been looking for a long time! I hope our host does NOT add this to the Complete Variety Sets!!!!! At least until I find one! >>



    About as unfair as adding the 1958 DDO Lincoln to the complete varieties sets years ago. I think Blay owned two of the three known. Dr. Pete owned the other.
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Has PCGS ever added a variety it has yet to grade? >>



    A 1943 D/D rpm 13 comes to mind. NONE of the top variety registry sets has one. None graded by PCGS last I looked.
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Has PCGS ever added a variety it has yet to grade? >>



    Yes, there are several Washington quarters that have no graded coins by PCGS: 1935 DDO FS-101, 1961-D RPM FS-502, 1962-D RPM FS-501, 1965 DDR FS-801, 1969-D RPM FS-502, and 1989-D RPM FS-501. All but the last coin are included in the All Varieties set. (If anyone has any of these coins, I might be a very interested buyer.)

    I am sure there are several varieties that PCGS hasn't graded in other series.

    BTW, the finder of the 1942-S nickel was Ken Frith, not Firth.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,371 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Has PCGS ever added a variety it has yet to grade? >>



    Many varieties are graded as the 'regular' coin, but not designated as anything special....

    When an item gets added to the CPG, then they start designating it and add a number
    - or when they add another 'expert book' and then start designating the varieties

    Assuming you pay for the 'variety attribution service'.


    edit to add that I do not feel it unfair to put in anything the editors feel like in their book.
  • BigDowgieBigDowgie Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭✭
    RichieURich - Thanks for the correction!

    daveweseen - I do agree the authors can add coins at their discretion. My hope is our host will do the same when it comes to the coins they add and begin attributing for the Complete Variety Sets.
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,369 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had to look this one up...So what we have here is a 1942-S Type I 5C? I wonder how many have slipped through peoples hands? Those of us who keep all nickels prior to 1960 may have one in their possession? Geez...I have about 20 rolls of pre-1960 Jeffersons...one of these days I'll look through them.
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  • BigDowgieBigDowgie Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, I think about all those circulated 2X2 boxes of coins that I pass over on my hunting expeditions! Man-o-man, I could have had one!!!
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, time to pull out my Jefferson jar.... unlikely I will find one, but in that pile, who knows... there MUST be more than one (he says with confidence)...image Cheers, RickO
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ken frith?
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  • pablitordillopablitordillo Posts: 16 ✭

    sir mike is my coin could be a fake one?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pablitordillo .... Welcome aboard.... Could you add more information to your post? And a picture if you are referring to a coin, if possible. That way we could help you. Cheers, RickO

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another revived thread that would benefit from a different color designation. Still have not got around to reviewing of my rolled pre-60 Jeffersons.

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  • pablitordillopablitordillo Posts: 16 ✭

    Dear mr. Richo,
    I have a coin known as frith nickel.lhave this coin for more than 30 years now.The frith nickel is a unique because only one exist so far.l can not say if my coin be the second frith nickel because its not yet authenticated.mine is a frith nickel a 1942 copper nickel with an S on the right side of monticello.what is more rare is that there is also a big S a mint mark for a silver nickel.it is loated at right upper side of monticello.lf you want a picture send me your email.
    thanks.have a nice day.G od bless.
    Pablito Ordillo [philippines]

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,371 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pablitordillo said:
    Dear mr. Richo,
    I have a coin known as frith nickel.lhave this coin for more than 30 years now.The frith nickel is a unique because only one exist so far.l can not say if my coin be the second frith nickel because its not yet authenticated.mine is a frith nickel a 1942 copper nickel with an S on the right side of monticello.what is more rare is that there is also a big S a mint mark for a silver nickel.it is loated at right upper side of monticello.lf you want a picture send me your email.
    thanks.have a nice day.G od bless.
    Pablito Ordillo [philippines]

    that would be wonderful, could you attach a picture here?

    Has anyone heard of any 1942-P proof nickels made with the copper/nickel composition rather than the copper/silver/manganese composition? I ask because I have an ugly one in a PCGS PR65 holder that looks to me like it could be nickel. Picks below and I guess metal analysis is only way to determine.


  • BigDowgieBigDowgie Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭✭

    I have not heard of this incorrect planchet, but theoretically could have happened. Metal analysis would be required.

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