Where to put 7k
VintagemanEd
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If you had 7k to spend and wanted a nice return in 3 years what card/grade would you put it in?
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Really though, Antiquarian books are the way to go. If done right, $7,000 in three years should return about $105k.
Why those cards? I like them and if you buy high-end for the grade you can diversify and buy more with the possibility of maybe have one or two cards get a bump. Griffey and Chipper will be HOFer's in 2016 & 2018.
You can pay my consulting fee in cards
1925 Exhibit Gehrig RC, if one can be found.
2 Fleer Jordan PSA 9 RCs that look like bump candidates, with some change left over.
The highest eye appeal base issue 50's Mantle card one can find, earlier the better (52B, 53B/T, 54B, 56-59T).
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<< <i>Grab a coupla high end PSA 8 Topps Pete Rose Rookies before Manfred shocks the world. >>
^^^^ I like this
Mint 87 Fleer Jordan and stickers.
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<< <i>High-end 51B Mantle PSA 5 with great registration and above average centering for the card.
1925 Exhibit Gehrig RC, if one can be found.
2 Fleer Jordan PSA 9 RCs that look like bump candidates, with some change left over.
The highest eye appeal base issue 50's Mantle card one can find, earlier the better (52B, 53B/T, 54B, 56-59T). >>
These are all something I would do..great insight.
<< <i>1988 Donruss cases. #283 Devon White, pop the first PSA10 and you're rich. 356 tries so far, 353 PSA7s, 2 PSA8s, & 1 PSA9. >>
Boom with that much scratch you can probably corner the market on those precocious high numbered sps and MVP inserts
<< <i>If you had 7k to spend and wanted a nice return in 3 years what card/grade would you put it in? >>
Couple of options:
Vintage - find the best centered a highest graded Mantle from 1956-1959 you can find. 1956 is already in the $6-7k range, 1957 is close, 1958 is in $5-6k range, and 1959 in the $4k range. With Mantle's once you get to 1966-1969 they are not difficult to find. Would also look for nicely centered Aaron or Clemente rookies in lower grades under $7k.
Other choices would be Nolan Ryan rookie in PSA 8($3k to $3500), Jordan rookies in PSA 8-9($1500-4000), plus cards of HOfers like Bench, Rose, Jackson, Brett, Henderson...
KC
Couple of options:
Vintage - find the best centered a highest graded Mantle from 1956-1959 you can find. 1956 is already in the $6-7k range, 1957 is close, 1958 is in $5-6k range, and 1959 in the $4k range. With Mantle's once you get to 1966-1969 they are not difficult to find. Would also look for nicely centered Aaron or Clemente rookies in lower grades under $7k.
Other choices would be Nolan Ryan rookie in PSA 8($3k to $3500), Jordan rookies in PSA 8-9($1500-4000), plus cards of HOfers like Bench, Rose, Jackson, Brett, Henderson...
KC >>
KC. What do you think about the 52 Bowman Mantle being the next one to take off like the 51 Bowman has over the last year or so now that the 52 Topps is getting out of normal collectors price range (speaking for myself that is)
ya still have your original $5K in your pocket that ya didn't spend and another $6K in profit.
OR:
just buy 1 card that ya loved as a kid, continue to love to this day and forget about making money!
True rookie
<< <i>Couple of options:
Vintage - find the best centered a highest graded Mantle from 1956-1959 you can find. 1956 is already in the $6-7k range, 1957 is close, 1958 is in $5-6k range, and 1959 in the $4k range. With Mantle's once you get to 1966-1969 they are not difficult to find. Would also look for nicely centered Aaron or Clemente rookies in lower grades under $7k.
Other choices would be Nolan Ryan rookie in PSA 8($3k to $3500), Jordan rookies in PSA 8-9($1500-4000), plus cards of HOfers like Bench, Rose, Jackson, Brett, Henderson...
KC >>
KC. What do you think about the 52 Bowman Mantle being the next one to take off like the 51 Bowman has over the last year or so now that the 52 Topps is getting out of normal collectors price range (speaking for myself that is) >>
I don't know if I am qualified to answer that question since I don't do much with Bowman cards, but I think your reasoning is correct and one all collectors need to have when looking at cards/prices/long term valuations. I think Matt(DM23) would be the expert on this subject.
I would say that historically rookie cards have always been the gold standard when it comes to cards, so a lot of it depends on what you personally like. If you really like a card don't settle for a different year due to price. Try to find the best example in regards to centering and eye appeal of the card you like even if you have to go down a grade or two.
I also think along the lines with my collection in these terms:
* Buy cards that I like and provide great memories from when I was a kid. There are numerous cards I love from 1973-1977 that are not worth more than $30 in PSA 8, but I remember those cards like yesterday when i was collecting as a 8 or 9 year old kid.
* For appreciation purposes find high end, well centered examples of HOF players. Like the above criteria buy players you like. If you don't like Seaver or Reggie don't buy their cards just because they will go up in value.
* I separate my collection into two areas. One part for collecting which I don't care if they increase in value, and the other part I try to find cards that I like that 5 years from now should be worth more than today. Back when I was collecting in the late 90's and early 2000 era my collection did fairly well and several key cards appreciated 2-3 times their worth in a couple of years - funny thing is they were not Mantle cards!
Good luck in your search and have fun with it.
KC
<< <i>just buy 1 card that ya loved as a kid, continue to love to this day and forget about making money! >>
Not Ed.
<< <i>What do you think about the 52 Bowman Mantle being the next one to take off like the 51 Bowman has over the last year or so now that the 52 Topps is getting out of normal collectors price range (speaking for myself that is) >>
That sounds like a great idea!
There are also quite a few slightly less mainstream Mantles that I expect will be dragged along by the growth of the Topps/Bowman cards. '54 Dandee in PSA 8, '54 Red Heart in PSA 9, and others.
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Someone always posts these traditional investment opportunities whenever someone wants to invest in cards. I did a quick search and saw that over the past 2 years, an ounce of gold has DECREASED over 15% and an ounce of silver has DECREASED over 32%.
I would be comfortable in saying that high grade vintage of HOF rookies have done considerably better than that over the same time period.
I understand these metals may be bargains right now, but someone probably thought the same thing back in 2013
<< <i>Grab a coupla high end PSA 8 Topps Pete Rose Rookies before Manfred shocks the world. >>
Ain't gonna happen. Pete will keep sitting on the bench with Shoeless Joe.
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<< <i>What do you think about the 52 Bowman Mantle being the next one to take off like the 51 Bowman has over the last year or so now that the 52 Topps is getting out of normal collectors price range (speaking for myself that is) >>
That sounds like a great idea!
There are also quite a few slightly less mainstream Mantles that I expect will be dragged along by the growth of the Topps/Bowman cards. '54 Dandee in PSA 8, '54 Red Heart in PSA 9, and others. >>
That is a beautiful Mantle right there. Thank you for sharing.
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<< <i>Grab a coupla high end PSA 8 Topps Pete Rose Rookies before Manfred shocks the world. >>
Ain't gonna happen. Pete will keep sitting on the bench with Shoeless Joe.
Of course. And the debate will roll on, meaning Pete won't lose any attention. Which means that a solid investment now would likely pay off pretty well in 3 years, all other logical factors considered. The individual example I've suggested here has increased in value by approximately 100% over the past 3 years.
But........what if he DOES GET IN?
<< <i>If I had 7k and wanted a nice return in three years I would buy some gold and silver, the kind that fits in your hand
Someone always posts these traditional investment opportunities whenever someone wants to invest in cards. I did a quick search and saw that over the past 2 years, an ounce of gold has DECREASED over 15% and an ounce of silver has DECREASED over 32%. >>
My apologies, I will bring my precious metals speculating to the correct forum. Thanks for your research. I must be dumb to invest in something that always decreases.
<< <i>I would be comfortable in saying that high grade vintage of HOF rookies have done considerably better than that over the same time period. >>
You're a smart dude.
<< <i> I understand these metals may be bargains right now, but someone probably thought the same thing back in 2013
I believe the op was asking about a decent return on investment starting now, not two years ago, but thanks for your insight.
To keep this card related, scans are always fun (I'm sorry Ed - they're not for sale):
Guy is an entertainer and in the limelight!
His cards will continue to have eyes.
Id' bet on it.
<< <i>Buy as many 1986-87 Fleer #7 B.J. Barkleys as you can.
Guy is an entertainer and in the limelight!
His cards will continue to have eyes.
Id' bet on it. >>
well, ya got the "bj" part right.
It's hard to believe it was trading north of 23 this past May.
<< <i>If you had 7k to spend and wanted a nice return in 3 years what card/grade would you put it in? >>
There are many great places to put 7K, gold and silver is the safest option but you must purchase from a reputable source. There are many silver plated bars that get passed off as solid silver. Be careful and educate yourself prior to making a $7,000 mistake. If you choose to put that money into cardboard, forget about the newer stuff and focus on vintage. Rookie hall of famers in your favorite sport in the highest grade possible. Great examples of income potential are the 55 Clemente 8, 55 Koufax 8 and 57 Bart Starr 8. These are only a couple examples but what is common amongst all is the era in which they played. The population is critical when investing in cards, scarcity will always drive demand and earning potential. There will always be two collectors who are willing to try to outspend each other to claim ownership of a low pop card. I personally owned two 1 of 1's, a 35 Goudey and a 63 Topps that I had a total of 275.00 into, decided it was time to sell after a year and made 7x my investment. IMHO The problem with late 70's, 80's and newer is that there is still a great deal of unopened material that have the potential to kill the pop and deflate your investment.
It's a difficult topic with many answers but if all else fails buy Mantles!
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Pretty sure 350 of these were done by Devon himself or something. They all graded PSA 7, it is quite weird to say the least. Also 2001 tradeshow Hawaii copies have 539 all graded in PSA 8. This is hard to imagine as a reality. I doubt this pop is hard to break and even a PSA 9 sold for $5 so I wouldn't think this is a viable get rich quick scheme. If it is, there is people selling 100-1000 of these in bulk out there I am sure and you could cherry pick much cheaper than buying cases to find that card.
*Upon further research this appears to be a giveaway buyback in how these were graded--for promotional purposes. These were not submitted as singles 100s of times and received low grades. The card is typically off center, however, so I guess PSA 8 is relative to the average centering, but keeping the par level at 7 or 8 for the same giveaways to all represented makes sense.
Looking back two years ago should have said Cracker Jack or t206 Green TY Cobb.... They have doubled /tripled since then.
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makes me want to hold on to my Roberto kelly Donruss 88 psa 10 extra tight
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