1873-cc arrows 25c just walked into the shop

sittingbull · September 17, 2015 6:13AM

The guy who brought it in dug it up. Looks good and has strong xf/au details. I will post pictures when I get home from work.

guitarwes · September 17, 2015 6:20AM

What a find. Can't wait to see it.

Unknown · September 17, 2015 6:44AM

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TigersFan2 · September 17, 2015 6:48AM

Are you sure it's legit? Sounds a bit too good to be true.

oih82w8 · September 17, 2015 6:49AM

That would be a RARE find indeed!

JJSingleton · September 17, 2015 6:58AM

That's one heck of a find to just dig up. Some are lucky I guess. I hope if you purchased it from him his good fortune remained intact.

roadrunner · September 17, 2015 7:35AM

It has the correct reeding (122 count) and mint mark size/location? I'd have to imagine a lot of "rare" coins come into shops after owners report having just dug them up "somewhere."

Think about the odds of digging that sucker up or any rare seated date for that matter with <150 known. There are probably no more than a dozen such dated seated quarters (approx 1,800 combined extant). And among the other seated quarters surviving you might have approx 60,000 specimens. So an estimate of the odds for finding any of those 12 top rare dates is approx 3%. For one of the 4 rare CC dates it's less than 1%. For this date alone....0.25% or less. And then in XF condition as well, probably <0.05%.

Hopefully, it's what it purports to be....and you can end up with it.

AUandAG · September 17, 2015 7:46AM

I suppose the guy dug it in the east?

bob

roadrunner · September 17, 2015 7:47AM

<< I suppose the guy dug it in the east?

bob

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Good one.

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Wabbit2313 · September 17, 2015 8:58AM

<< Are you sure it's legit? Sounds a bit too good to be true. >>

If it was in the ground, that is one Hell of a place to hide a counterfeit!

roadrunner · September 17, 2015 9:06AM

<< 

<< Are you sure it's legit? Sounds a bit too good to be true. >>

If it was in the ground, that is one Hell of a place to hide a counterfeit! >>

Exactly. Which is why most of these "found in the ground" stories are bogus, and the coins were never in the ground to begin with. If the coin is real, it could have been found in the ground or stolen for all we know. And this single CC quarter is the only coin that was found in this buried location?

ebaybuyer · September 17, 2015 9:08AM

just because a coin came out of the ground... doesn't mean it will always look like it came out of the ground. the CC mintmark on the 1870-76 quarters are very specific

golden · September 17, 2015 10:19AM

<< 

<< I suppose the guy dug it in the east?

bob

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The far east.

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Christos · September 17, 2015 10:28AM

We will have a better idea when the images are posted, till then it's all guess work with nothing to show for it.

davewesen · September 17, 2015 10:33AM

did you get it for a steal?

sittingbull · September 17, 2015 11:38AM

I just work at the shop, the customer does not want pictures of the coin shown but it is off for certification. Sorry for the let down.

LanceNewmanOCC · September 17, 2015 11:45AM

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ive seen quite a few dug pieces in top tpg details holders and the usually have meat left on the bone.

also seen these coins 1/3 of grey and below. great chance to own an otherwise significantly unaffordable coin for most.

hope it is legit.

.

TigersFan2 · September 17, 2015 1:06PM

<< I just work at the shop, the customer does not want pictures of the coin shown but it is off for certification. Sorry for the let down. >>

Hopefully you ordered Truview with it then can just give us the cert # when it is graded.

Coinosaurus · September 17, 2015 1:17PM

Proving any coin was actually dug is really hard to do, if you think about it.

At least with Saddle Ridge you have the containers, and the photos of the uncurated coins.

But a single coin like this - tough, especially if the seller appears out of nowhere.

Bochiman · September 17, 2015 1:53PM

<< 

<< I just work at the shop, the customer does not want pictures of the coin shown but it is off for certification. Sorry for the let down. >>

Hopefully you ordered Truview with it then can just give us the cert # when it is graded. >>

If the guy doesn't sell the coin to them, but pays them for their services to submit the coin and decides to keep it, and he continues to not want it shown, then posting the certification and/or picture would not be ethical, imho.
I would love to see it, but if the customer has a wish, then someone else shouldn't blatantly go against it.

rhedden · September 17, 2015 2:10PM

I have seen legit 1870-cc and 1871-cc quarters dug up, so they are out there. However, there are so many fakes of these rare dates that everyone is going to be skeptical until it slabs. Let us know.

Edited to add: here is a real one from my collection. It's PCGS F12 now. If the style and spacing of the mint mark doesn't EXACTLY match this coin, it's fake, as they all have the same mint mark. If the CC mint mark is larger than the one shown, it's a common fake that has been floating around with one of the reverses of 1876-cc. These show up on eBay all the time with sketchy zero-feedback sellers that "know nothing about coins".

Bayard1908 · September 17, 2015 4:30PM

I enjoy metal detecting and have dug up some silver coins every day this week. My oldest one this week was a 1910 Barber dime; but, seated coins are definitely out there to be found too. Silver coins survive pretty well underground. Depending upon the soil conditions, they can come up anywhere from pristine to heavily stained. I have dug Mercury dimes and other silver coins that look to be mint state with nice luster.

If you have ever walked through an old park, baseball field, picnic grounds, or similar property, then you have definitely had Mercury dimes, Buffalo nickels, Indian cents, and numerous other old coins directly beneath your feet.

lordmarcovan · September 17, 2015 8:17PM

Some of my detecting buddies have found CC Seated Liberties here on the east coast of Georgia.

That's a neat find. I'm not up to speed on confirming its authenticity, but the overall look is certainly consistent with dug silver.

rhedden · September 18, 2015 4:58AM

The coin pictured above is from my collection, and it is a non-dug PCGS F12. The OP says he is not going to post an image of the coin in question.

TigersFan2 · September 18, 2015 5:01AM

<< If you have ever walked through an old park, baseball field, picnic grounds, or similar property, then you have definitely had Mercury dimes, Buffalo nickels, Indian cents, and numerous other old coins directly beneath your feet. >>

Not in Arizona where hardly anything is that old.

johnny9434 · September 18, 2015 5:10AM

this one id love to see and will get to see it.

coindeuce · September 18, 2015 5:14AM

I've handled a PCGS AG-3 in the past year that had to have spent a long time in circulation before it was recognized. I would have passed on it if it had not been authenticated by PCGS.

garrynot · September 18, 2015 5:42AM

You could send the pics to Rusty Goe at Southgate Coins in Reno and get a quick opinion.

lordmarcovan · September 18, 2015 4:33PM

<< The coin pictured above is from my collection, and it is a non-dug PCGS F12. The OP says he is not going to post an image of the coin in question. >>

Oh. Duh.

That's what I get for scrolling too much and reading too little.

<< 

<< If you have ever walked through an old park, baseball field, picnic grounds, or similar property, then you have definitely had Mercury dimes, Buffalo nickels, Indian cents, and numerous other old coins directly beneath your feet. >>

Not in Arizona where hardly anything is that old. >>

Au contraire, you can find old coins even in Arizona and our "newer" states. Practically any state in the Union is old enough to have Seated Liberty and Barber coins, at the very least. And you'd be surprised where Spanish Colonial silver turns up, because it circulated so long. It was legal tender until 1857, of course, but I've seen Spanish reales from the 1770s found on Victorian sites from the late 1800s and very early 1900s.

rhedden · September 18, 2015 11:20PM

I sometimes fantasize about digging up one of the rare CC mint coins here in the southwest. But reality is that I have only used my detector about 4 times since I moved here in 2009. There aren't many sites that one can get onto, and the finds are few and far between. In one memorable trip in west TX last spring, I detected for a solid hour and did not find a piece of metal. I really mean that I did not even hit a rusty nail or pulltab. Then I got a broken windshield on the way home and it cost me $500. I think I will wait to move back east before I do much more detecting.

TigersFan2 · September 18, 2015 11:47PM

<< I sometimes fantasize about digging up one of the rare CC mint coins here in the southwest. But reality is that I have only used my detector about 4 times since I moved here in 2009. There aren't many sites that one can get onto, and the finds are few and far between. In one memorable trip in west TX last spring, I detected for a solid hour and did not find a piece of metal. I really mean that I did not even hit a rusty nail or pulltab. Then I got a broken windshield on the way home and it cost me $500. I think I will wait to move back east before I do much more detecting. >>

The problem with the southwest is that the ground is very non-organic and hard. If someone dropped a coin 100 years ago, there was little means to make it buried. No grass, fall leaves, rainfall/mud to obscure it underground.

luckyiguess · October 20, 2015 7:14AM

well im the guy that dug the 1873cc 25c with arrows up. if you want to see pictures of it

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=241744

it came back PCGS genuine rimdmg fx-details

And I did dig it up and it is not a fake. I live near what was the carson city trail.

MonsterCoinz · October 20, 2015 7:35AM

Not sure why you keep bumping all of your quarter threads.

In my opinion, someone either did a hell of a job making the OP's coin look like the one below... or they actually are the same and any discrepancy is the result of lighting and taking the pictures with a potato.

bolivarshagnasty · October 20, 2015 1:35PM

Sooo.... where did you find these photos Mach1ne?

davewesen · October 20, 2015 9:41PM

Originally posted by: bolivarshagnasty
Sooo.... where did you find these photos Mach1ne?

the thread described by luckiguess
in the post above mach1ne

here is another pic from that thred

pennyannie · October 20, 2015 10:32PM

I have been burying my money for years, I but it in a little metal box first.

ricko · October 20, 2015 10:49PM

The picture posted is definitely (IMO) a genuine coin... but now we need to see

if the picture posted is really the coin found.... Oh boy.. the drama never ends.

Cheers, RickO

coindeuce · October 20, 2015 11:03PM

Originally posted by: ricko
The picture posted is definitely (IMO) a genuine coin... but now we need to see
if the picture posted is really the coin found.... Oh boy.. the drama never ends.
Cheers, RickO

Maybe the OP (sittingbull) could confirm that, since he saw the raw coin.

Wabbit2313 · October 21, 2015 12:26AM

I wonder if the damage happened digging that baby up? What a cool find.

coindeuce · October 21, 2015 12:51AM

Anybody remember purplecuda7373 ? He brought a '72-CC quarter here that was claimed to have been dug. It got in to a PCGS VF30 holder. I owned it briefly. He nearly got run off the boards by the skeptics at the time.

'72-CC quarter dug in Genoa, NV.

asheland · October 21, 2015 1:09AM

Originally posted by: FadeToBlack

I suppose the guy dug it in the east?

bob

The far east.

sittingbull · October 21, 2015 2:30AM

The coin pictured is the one that walked into the shop. I thought it had a shot at AU details.

PRECIOUSMENTAL · October 21, 2015 3:41AM

It would be nice to see a better photo of the slabbed coin.

yosclimber · October 21, 2015 6:01AM

There are better images on the cert page.
Here's a link to the (huge) full size image:
http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/29992227_max.png

PRECIOUSMENTAL · October 21, 2015 7:20AM

Thanks, I did see those on the cert. page.
It seems there is a concern that two different coins were depicted.
I'm happy picking up a dime in the parking lot, let alone detecting such a great find.
Especially since OP really didn't know what he had at first.

yosclimber · October 21, 2015 9:50AM

Originally posted by: PRECIOUSMENTAL
Thanks, I did see those on the cert. page.

What would you like to see in a better photo that's not in that big photo?
(Just curious).

PRECIOUSMENTAL · October 22, 2015 3:53AM

I'm sorry, had this one confused with a different coin from another forum.

1873-cc arrows 25c just walked into the shop

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