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VintagemanEdVintagemanEd Posts: 932 ✭✭✭
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Ok.... Let's talk about the year 2030.... What junk wax from
Say 1987 Topps through 1991 will have the most value in 10 years

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  • GrimsterGrimster Posts: 286 ✭✭✭
    1990 topps will always have a place in my heart because that was really when I started to buy packs from the local gas station as a kid. I also like that set because of the Frank Thomas rookie. I would say in 10-15 years that 1990 topps will still have the most value of the 87-91 topps junk wax run. The value? no idea.

    87 topps will remain cheap unless the "steroid era" guys can make it into the hall of fame.
  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any of the 89 issues except Topps, Griffey Jr has an incredible following.
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  • rcmb3220rcmb3220 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭✭
    89 fleer gets my vote. Although I doubt prices will increase much
  • curchcurch Posts: 590 ✭✭✭
    If we are just talking baseball here, I think if any sets take off it would be the 90 and 91 topps.
    Always looking for vintage wax boxes!
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say either 89 fleer or 90 topps. Because you have an outside chance at some prominent error cards

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • addicted2ebayaddicted2ebay Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭✭
    I can't see any of those cards increasing in value in 15 years. Maybe 150 but I would not bet on it.
  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    What sport?
  • VintagemanEdVintagemanEd Posts: 932 ✭✭✭
    Baseball...... I just saw that I said in 10 years.... I meant in 15 years!
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    Defintely 1989 issues mainly because of Griffey RC's.

    I can actually see the 1988 issues becoming a cheaper alternative to toilet paper by 2050
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  • arexarex Posts: 999 ✭
    1989 Fleer. Hall of fame rookies of Griffey, Smoltz, Biggio, Johnson. Plus you have the errors of FF Ripken, the Treadway Bulls-eye and all the Marlboro Johnson variations.
    I don't know if it's true but to me it always seemed like 89 Donruss was always easier for me to find than Fleer. So perhaps there is not as much Fleer out there?
  • vandwellervandweller Posts: 205 ✭
    1991 Topps baseball: Chipper RC, last year of brown cardboard, lots of errors and variations, prominent parallel issues (Desert Shield, last year of Tiffany), great photography, last real classic-looking Topps design, nostalgia factor for people in their 30's and 40's.


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  • esquiresportsesquiresports Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1989 Fleer. Hall of fame rookies of Griffey, Smoltz, Biggio, Johnson. Plus you have the errors of FF Ripken, the Treadway Bulls-eye and all the Marlboro Johnson variations.
    I don't know if it's true but to me it always seemed like 89 Donruss was always easier for me to find than Fleer. So perhaps there is not as much Fleer out there? >>



    There is not as much Fleer out there relative to Donruss. I would estimate the Donruss print run at roughly double. A wild guess, but I went through a lot of these cases in the late 1990s, and Donruss was always easier to come by.

    I'm going to go with 1987 Donruss. A strong lineup and black-bordered cards.
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  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭
    1989 Fleer basketball has been very slowly creeping up. That should continue.
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  • RookieWaxRookieWax Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭
    The 1989 Topps "Big Baseball" Series 3 boxes have been the #1 sleeper from the junk wax era for a while. There just isn't a lot of it out there - much more difficult to find than series 1 and 2. It contains the most difficult Randy Johnson rookie to find in high grade (see this month's SMR article on Johnson's cards). It's a $300 card in a PSA 10, and with a population of only 7, that is probably a great price if you can find one for sale. They also contain John Smoltz' rookie....also a pretty tough card (although the centering issues aren't typically as drastic as Johnson's card) and it is $100+ card in a PSA 10.

    The prices on those boxes have been creeping upward, and I could see them going much higher. And I haven't seen a sealed case come up for sale in 3 years...as I have been searching regularly for them. They were certainly a more limited, premium product upon release...but the 1988 cards didn't catch on in the hobby and then Upper Deck became the premium product everyone wanted in 1989. Topps eventually replaced the "Big Baseball" line with Stadium Club in 1991.
  • NJ80sBBCNJ80sBBC Posts: 748 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>1989 Fleer. Hall of fame rookies of Griffey, Smoltz, Biggio, Johnson. Plus you have the errors of FF Ripken, the Treadway Bulls-eye and all the Marlboro Johnson variations.
    I don't know if it's true but to me it always seemed like 89 Donruss was always easier for me to find than Fleer. So perhaps there is not as much Fleer out there? >>



    There is not as much Fleer out there relative to Donruss. I would estimate the Donruss print run at roughly double. A wild guess, but I went through a lot of these cases in the late 1990s, and Donruss was always easier to come by.

    I'm going to go with 1987 Donruss. A strong lineup and black-bordered cards. >>



    I agree, 87Donruss has a great lineup for its era and remains in more limited quantities than most other issues of this era. Condition sensitivity and completely hit or miss quality control make it appealing as well.

    I still rip a bunch of 87 Donruss and 87 Fleer, brings me immediately back to being a kid completely addicted to BBC. Phew, glad to see how well I kicked that habit.
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  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just opened a box of 1988 Fleer tonight because I like it. Like 1987 Fleer too, and 1989 Fleer is ok. . All of those other sets not a fan.
    Looking for FB HOF Rookies
  • VintagemanEdVintagemanEd Posts: 932 ✭✭✭
    The Donruss Griffey in a 10 is tougher than the fleer though
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The 1989 Topps "Big Baseball" Series 3 boxes have been the #1 sleeper from the junk wax era for a while. There just isn't a lot of it out there - much more difficult to find than series 1 and 2. It contains the most difficult Randy Johnson rookie to find in high grade (see this month's SMR article on Johnson's cards). It's a $300 card in a PSA 10, and with a population of only 7, that is probably a great price if you can find one for sale. They also contain John Smoltz' rookie....also a pretty tough card (although the centering issues aren't typically as drastic as Johnson's card) and it is $100+ card in a PSA 10.

    The prices on those boxes have been creeping upward, and I could see them going much higher. And I haven't seen a sealed case come up for sale in 3 years...as I have been searching regularly for them. They were certainly a more limited, premium product upon release...but the 1988 cards didn't catch on in the hobby and then Upper Deck became the premium product everyone wanted in 1989. Topps eventually replaced the "Big Baseball" line with Stadium Club in 1991. >>



    One case on eBay right now!!
  • RookieWaxRookieWax Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭


    << <i>One case on eBay right now!! >>



    A case of 1989 series 3? Please provide a link...as I don't see it.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>One case on eBay right now!! >>



    A case of 1989 series 3? Please provide a link...as I don't see it. >>



    I was on my iPad yesterday when I saw it so I could not get the link, but I could have sworn it was a Series 3 case. Don't see it now either!! image
  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    1990 Pro Set forever
  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I opened 3 vending boxes of 1985 Fleer today. I love the set. I swear every decent card was a 9 at best though.
    Looking for FB HOF Rookies
  • NJ80sBBCNJ80sBBC Posts: 748 ✭✭✭✭
    That sounds like a great time! Did you happen to correlate the stars to the boxe numbers? Is it sequential through the 4 boxes?
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  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That sounds like a great time! Did you happen to correlate the stars to the boxe numbers? Is it sequential through the 4 boxes? >>



    Yes box 1 and box 3 were much better than box 2. Clemens and Puckett were right next to each other in box 1. Centering was best in box 3 for some reason. Box 2 had neither Clemens or Puckett. The only RC I have a shot on a 10 is Orel Hershiser. I have a Clemens that I will throw in to a special submission that should be a 9. Pulled almost 2 sets from the boxes I used it to build one really nice looking set. Only star that I only that I did not get doubles of is Cal Ripken
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  • royalbrettroyalbrett Posts: 620 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I opened 3 vending boxes of 1985 Fleer today. I love the set. I swear every decent card was a 9 at best though. >>



    I'm not looking for gradeables, but am trying to finish my set. Any chance you would have some of these:


    9,16,17,53,79(Gooden)*,114
    126,153,155(Clemens),169,170,199
    265(Schmidt),274,275,279,286(Puckett)
    302,303,318,342,359(Ryan),366,438,452
    469
    473,480,501,508,518,550(Rose)
    578,585,591,592,
    595,599,601(Yount),613
    627(Schmidt IA),630(Schmidt/Sandberg),647
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  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,306 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I opened 3 vending boxes of 1985 Fleer today. I love the set. I swear every decent card was a 9 at best though. >>



    I'm not looking for gradeables, but am trying to finish my set. Any chance you would have some of these:


    9,16,17,53,79(Gooden)*,114
    126,153,155(Clemens),169,170,199
    265(Schmidt),274,275,279,286(Puckett)
    302,303,318,342,359(Ryan),366,438,452
    469
    473,480,501,508,518,550(Rose)
    578,585,591,592,
    595,599,601(Yount),613
    627(Schmidt IA),630(Schmidt/Sandberg),647 >>



    Pm sent
    Looking for FB HOF Rookies
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