NGC Details thoughts??

SilverStacks63

So I recently sent some coins in to have graded that looked cleaned. Although I prefer PCGS over NGC I wasn't sure what PCGS would do with a coin that was cleaned. The coins came back AU/XF Details (improperly cleaned/obv scratched). I guess I'm happy knowing that I was correct as far as the condition but next time i would like to see them in a PCGS holder. Any similar experiences? Recommendations for next time??

Wabbit2313

What are the coins? It really does not matter whose holder they are in if they are problem coins, especially if they are fairly common coins.

An exception could be: 1884-S Morgan Uncirculated details cleaned. It is worth way more even in the details slab than raw because of the giant jump in price to uncirculated. There are many other examples like the above.

SilverStacks63

1852 $1 gold UNC details obv scratched
1853 $1 gold UNC details obv scratched

1854 $2.5 AU details imp cleaned

1854 $3 xf details i.c.
1854 $3 au details i.c.
1855 $3 au details i.c.
1859 $3 au details i.c.
1874 $3 au details i.c.

1847 $10 au details i.c.
1849 $10 xf details i.c.

oih82w8

Perhaps it is just me, but...I would not send in knowingly cleaned coins.

LindeDad

All the small gold is worth more slabed than raw as it was counterfeited so much you should get your money back because the coins are authenicated now.
PCGS has the same type of service. BTW either is OK go with what is cheapest for known details items IMO.

BStrauss3

Several of those are very small and easily damaged by accident or handling. So good to have them placed in a protective environment...

Past that, what's the purpose here? An impaired coin isn't magically going to be worth more in PCGS plastic than NGC. It's still impaired.

Unless they are exceptional dates, a cleaned AU is worth something like VF money. So the $1 are worth, what, maybe $225 each. Spend another $30 on grading over the $30 you've already spent and you're in the hole unless gold hits $3000 an ounce...

SilverStacks63

I have a total of $125 in the $1 gold after grading

Wabbit2313

<< <i>1854 $3 au details i.c.
1855 $3 au details i.c.
1859 $3 au details i.c.
1874 $3 au details i.c. >>



I would take a chance on these 4 and send them to PCGS myself.

SilverStacks63

Can i send them in the NGC holders?

Wabbit2313

<< <i>Can i send them in the NGC holders? >>



Crack em!

winky

<< <i>Perhaps it is just me, but...I would not send in knowingly cleaned coins. >>



I'm with you on that.

SilverStacks63

Yeah, that's what i was thinking. Thanks again

BillJones

<< <i>Perhaps it is just me, but...I would not send in knowingly cleaned coins. >>



It is worth doing if the coin is question is rare and valuable IF there is a question as to its authenticity.

It also provides peace of mind for classic rare coins that still have value once they have autheticated. For example I've seen 1796 Quarters and Chain Cents in "details" holders that previously would have gone into body bags. It is better for those coins to be slabs given the number of Chinese counterfeits. The Chinese will make anything to order. I've even seen an 1802 over 0 "half cent" with the old reverse (a rare coin) in "Gen Chinese BU" and a "1796 half cent struck over a large cent planchet."

Timbuk3

Good luck !!! :-)

SilverStacks63

Thank you for your time and advice.

SilverStacks63

Thanks!

291fifth

It is always a good idea to have gold coins certified by one of the major TPGs. Counterfeit gold, especially the $1 & $3 coins were heavily counterfeited back in the 1970's and early 1980's. Many, if not most, of the counterfeits of that era have the proper gold content because they were made from melted down US $20 gold coins. I'm sure many of them are still around.