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Has anyway ever heard of a slab company named ANGS?

RealoneRealone Posts: 18,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
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or AMERICAN NATIONAL GRADING SERVICE is what it stands for, was it a real grading company or private dealer etc......when, where, what and whyimage?
thanks
PS I googled them and found only negative hearsay but I figured I would ask the learned here for the real storyimage

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,255 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>or AMERICAN NATIONAL GRADING SERVICE is what it stands for, was it a real grading company or private dealer etc......when, where, what and whyimage?
    thanks
    PS I googled them and found only negative hearsay but I figured I would ask the learned here for the real storyimage >>



    Are you sure it isn't ANGST?
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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a couple in my misc slab box and they are pure garbage.
  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Anybody can buy slabs, put coins in them and call themselves a TPG. At several local coin shows I went to last spring, there was a large table with 2 guys who were selling slabbed coins of some unknown TPG. Even though the shows were very crowded, hardly anyone was at their table. Afterwards I tried looking up their grading company online and couldn't find any mention of it anywhere. I don't remember the name of their TPG any more. The funny thing was that some of their coins had grades like MS40 and MS50. I guess I could have stopped and talked with them to learn more about their TPG, but I didn't.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coins in third world slabs should be treated like raw coins.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    According to their website, they have been in business since 2000 and have a grading services price schedule for submissions.
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  • TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Last spring I sold on EBay a raw 1909-VDB cent that was in AU condition for $12. A month later I got a private message from the happy buyer that he sent it to some unfamiliar TPG and it came back AU-58. Good for him!
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  • TwobitcollectorTwobitcollector Posts: 3,856 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>or AMERICAN NATIONAL GRADING SERVICE is what it stands for, was it a real grading company or private dealer etc......when, where, what and whyimage?
    thanks
    PS I googled them and found only negative hearsay but I figured I would ask the learned here for the real storyimage >>



    I was at the US Mint in Philadelphia the other day and as I recall at the gift shop they were selling coins graded by that company.
    They use an oversize holder some with multi coins in them.
    One that caught my eye was a complete set of type nickels but did not include a shield nickel, and a set of re-processed cents
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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The only company I have seen using ANGS is a "self-slabber" and not a real grading company.

    Edited for spelling ...
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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's the Beef? image
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>or AMERICAN NATIONAL GRADING SERVICE is what it stands for, was it a real grading company or private dealer etc......when, where, what and whyimage?
    thanks
    PS I googled them and found only negative hearsay but I figured I would ask the learned here for the real storyimage >>



    I was at the US Mint in Philadelphia the other day and as I recall at the gift shop they were selling coins graded by that company.
    They use an oversize holder some with multi coins in them.
    One that caught my eye was a complete set of type nickels but did not include a shield nickel, and a set of re-processed cents >>



    Wow, endorsed by the US Mint. How many other TPGs were in the Mint gift shop?
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  • winkywinky Posts: 1,671 ✭
    Always use PCGS if you want it done right.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    do you have the book of slabs by conder?

    he lives north of me and id hoped to have ran into him by now. :/
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hadn't heard of them before today, but at Goldberg lot viewing this morning I saw a 1892-S Morgan Dollar graded MS66 by ANGS. The Goldberg catalog gave their grade estimate of the coin as AU50 cleaned and I thought that was being generous. That should tell you all you need to know about this "grading company."

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Has anyway ever heard of a slab company named ANGS? >>



    No but I used to frequent a tavern named "Ang's". She could grade MS70 even today.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>.
    do you have the book of slabs by conder?

    he lives north of me and id hoped to have ran into him by now. :/
    . >>

    Most of the "self-slabbers" arose after his book was printed.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You sure that isn't a short abbreviation for ANG INAS ?
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,758 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These outfits are what I call, "Uncle Elmer's Grading Services" (UEGS). "Uncle Elmer" used to be in business to serve the bottom feeders on eBay until eBay cracked down and only allowed PCGS and NGC to be called grading services. Now "Uncle Elmer" probably spends his time at flea markets.

    What was the name of that service that had the cheep little holders with the green inserts? They were worst than a broken clock. At least the clock was right twice a day.
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What was the name of that service that had the cheep little holders with the green inserts? >>



    The main one I remember with green inserts was ICG. It's a shame they weren't more successfully because I quite like their holders.
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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like they got their co. name via the first 2 letters, AN from ANACS, and the last 2 letters, GS, from PCGS.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,758 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>What was the name of that service that had the cheep little holders with the green inserts? >>



    The main one I remember with green inserts was ICG. It's a shame they weren't more successfully because I quite like their holders. >>



    No, it's not ICG. The inserts I'm talking about are the part the holds the coin in place. The slabs were smaller and thinner than the NGC and PCGS holders.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    never heard of them. unless something sticks out i dont look for for them
  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,676 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm sure that somewhere there's an ANGS slab thats accurately graded. Just never seen one myself. I call them blind squirrel grading companies... as in even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.

    I think I posted my 3 die algorithm for grading mint state coins... glue six on the table next to a 2, roll one die and add them together. And of course there's the Four die algorithm for coins you're not sure are mint state: glue a five next to a three, roll two dice and add them all together.


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  • bob48bob48 Posts: 460 ✭✭✭
    If you would like to see a picture of one of these, here is a link to it.

    ANGS Slab Link

    Also they have a decent listing of TPG Slabs
    Bob

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,758 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm sure that somewhere there's an ANGS slab thats accurately graded. Just never seen one myself. I call them blind squirrel grading companies... as in even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.

    I think I posted my 3 die algorithm for grading mint state coins... glue six on the table next to a 2, roll one die and add them together. And of course there's the Four die algorithm for coins you're not sure are mint state: glue a five next to a three, roll two dice and add them all together. >>



    I once bought a Hard Times token in an ACG holder when I was dealer. ACG got the grade right, but I cracked it out anyway.
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