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How much do you care about esoteric rarities?

topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
I'm thinking about "crosslet 4" 1834 gold

1812/1 Large 8 bust half


1829 Curl Base 2 bust dime

etc.
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    tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,609 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Meh! >>



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    JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    I collect mostly esoteric rarities (although not American), so they interest me greatly.
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,186 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As prices have risen my interest in such items has declined.
    All glory is fleeting.
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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I was going to buy an esoteric rarity I would look for something more modern, like a 2007 "Frosted Liberty" platinum eagle or a 2008-W reverse of 2007 silver eagle.

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    valente151valente151 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭
    I'll take a superb gem common variety over a worn R8 variety of the same date. Same thing with preferring a superb gem type date over a key date in the same series. For me, I enjoy the eye appeal of a coin just as much if not more than the rarity, the date is just such a small portion of metal of the coin, heck I look at the overall pop of a coin before I even see the date. I'll take a MS65 BN large cent over an AG strawberry cent anyday... That's my rambling thoughts on the matter.
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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,286 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't care much for varieties (even within my Walker series, as there is nothing that special). Would never pay big money for a 1946 DDR WLH, as an example. I like 1918/17-S SLQ----something like that excites me a lot more but that is less esoteric and more well known IMHO.

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    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The bigger majority of my Type Collection comprises of attributed varieties. Although some of more colorful coins are "ordinary". Variety collectors are a rare breed...maybe we need badges, lanyards, or secret handshake.
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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The examples you gave could be better described as "high priced Red Book die varieties".

    Would I want to buy one (that is correctly priced)? No.

    However, they are fun to look for.
    They "keep the dream alive" for cherrypickers / treasure hunters.
    Although it's even more fun to look for unattributed die varieties which are not in the Red Book,
    as these are more frequently found.
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    jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They "keep the dream alive" for cherrypickers / treasure hunters.
    Although it's even more fun to look for unattributed die varieties which are not in the Red Book,
    as these are more frequently found. >>



    Well said image
    an SLQ and Ike dollars lover
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    winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    Just a variety nut for rare variety's.
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    NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes.

    It depends on what a person collects. If early die varieties, then esoteric rarities are essential. If date or type sets, not needed. I have a 1834 crosslet $5 because I used to collect the classic head gold series. It is scarce, but not rare per the Sheldon scale.
    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Meh!

    Says the man that would trade his left nut for a chopmarked 1875 Trade Dollar.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, I am interested, in the series I collect.

    I like bust halves and there's a solid market for scarce varieties and die marriages. Which makes buying one a pleasurable, low risk expenditure.

    I have no interest in any modern rarity at any price.
    Lance.
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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Just esoterically
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    howardshowards Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭
    On a scale of 1 to 10, I care about 100 for esoteric varieties.
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unattributed varieties are out there, you just gotta look for them. The sellers image of this coin is kinda dark, but if you know what to look for;

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    I have encountered alot of dealers who are not knoledgable, nor care to be, in varities and would only buy the coin as "common".
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    PurfrockPurfrock Posts: 545 ✭✭✭
    I love rare varieties!
    EAC, ANA Member
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I care about 10 on the esoteric scale about the esotericness of the 1933 St. Gaudens $20 gold piece.The pocket piece is the most esoteric one of the ten.I also care about 1894-S dimes which are esoteric too.

    The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
    Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)

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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm thinking about "crosslet 4" 1834 gold

    1812/1 Large 8 bust half


    1829 Curl Base 2 bust dime

    etc.
    image >>

    The thing is, unless you're deeply ingrained in all the varieties, some of this esoteric stuff is just chaff with the wheat going to the more widely accepted common varieties.
    I care about some of these only enough so that if I run across something, I'll bite but I won't go out of my way searching for them.

    There are an absolute TON of Kennedy Varieties but only a few which are of any significance. As such, even a dedicated Kennedy collector may not pursue all the various CONECA versions of the Kennedy Half Dollar which makes a majority of them "esoteric".

    Just like all the versions of the 1972/72 Lincoln DDO. One, FS-104, is worth a ton of money and is quite rare, or so it seems. I expect that only a handful of collectors have the means to even care about picking up an example which outs it in the esoteric class despite its price.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mostly, not at all...sometimes they are interesting to review. Cheers, RickO

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