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YQQYQQ Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭✭✭
it is simple, should this coin be dipped?
It is nearly black and not attractive at all to look at.
I am personally not a "dipper" or c"cleaner". but perhaps there would ? - should/ or are ? allowable ot tolerated exceptions?
what is your opinion and / or perhaps experience?
thank you all for your help with this one.

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  • You might want to try swabbing the coin with acetone using a Q-tip. Some of the dirt may come off then. I am not in favoring of dipping. This coin would probably grade at VF+. The details would not be improved if dipped. Thank you for showing the coin. John
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  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't believe that dipping would help this coin; i think it might be beyond that point already. You would run the risk of some of the thick black patina coming off and other parts not...

  • bronzematbronzemat Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the look of it, i'd leave it alone.
  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with ShadyDave; dipping won't help it. If anything, it could look worse. Dark toning is sometimes etched into the coin, and dipping it might make it appear stained.

    Jim
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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thank you all so far..
    I should have indicated before that the coin is NOT dirty at all
    it is just black ( patina or oxydation)???
    wondering what caused this "black" condition?
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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,736 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmm, best seen in hand. I confess to VERY LIGHTLY dipping a similar such piece, and don't have the coin but it looks good. You would certainly not want a bright white piece of silver with the marks displayed.
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  • PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭
    I wouldn't dip it. It looks good as is. The more a coin has circulated and the thicker the toning, the less likely dipping will accomplish much in terms of eye appeal.
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really like the look as it is. I would acetone it, nothing more...
  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭
    (patina or oxidation?) definition is in the eye of the beholder. Visit the liteside and present the question to RICKO, he'll say tarnish!
    Paul
  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sulky*
    which TPG would grade that as you suggested?
    Personally I do not think that any of the top 2 in the US would grade it.. it would be: .****... details IMO.
    Can grader ICCS might go for VF, for sure F15.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,816 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think so... the picture leads me to believe it is not possible for the coin to get a straight grade

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  • brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think a dip would be helpful for this coin.

    BTW, I love this portrait of Victoria. I like that coin just the way it is. image
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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you all for your input.
    was very interesting to get different and valuable opinons.
    Coin will soon be on the way to ICCS. we shall see.....
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