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My 1873 Lib Seated 25c - Open 3 or Closed 3????

chiefbobchiefbob Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
The PCGS holder does not mention either variety. When I checked the price guide for this specimen (PF55), that's when I noticed the huge price difference.

I've compared my image with known closed "3"s for sale on the bay, and it sure looks like the closed variety. The "3" almost looks like an "8".

Anyone collect this series or is familiar with the variety and can judge by my image alone?

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Thanks,
Bob
Retired Air Force 1965-2000
Vietnam Vet 1968-1969

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  • coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭
    It actually does look closed to me, too.
  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like the closed 3 to me as well.

    http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/Quarter_QOM/1873na_closed3.htm

    OPEN
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    CLOSED
    image

    From the above link:

    The situation becomes more interesting if one considers the proofs minted in Philadelphia during 1873. Though correctly considered a different issue from business strikes, many collectors, including Eliasberg, have substituted relatively common proofs for very rare business strikes in their sets. All 600 proof quarters minted in 1873 were of the closed 3 variety and are challenging to distinguish from high grade business strikes.
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  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭✭
    The problem is that it's a Proof not a business strike.
    Derek

    EAC 6024
  • chiefbobchiefbob Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The problem is that it's a Proof not a business strike. >>




    image I was in the MS range and didn't scroll down far enough for the proofs. Poof! My $7,000 just went down to $380...

    Retired Air Force 1965-2000
    Vietnam Vet 1968-1969
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Mint did not produce a No Arrows 1873 Proof with Open 3. All 1873 No Arrows Proof quarters are the Close 3 variety, hence no special designation on the holder. The 1873 With Arrows Proof quarter conversely, was only made with an Open 3 in date.

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  • winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    It's closed.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Closed case closed!
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Closed 3. Unfortunately, all proofs are closed 3s, and they do not bring a premium. It's the closed 3 business strike that's worth a pretty penny.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Closed 3 came first. It was changed because it looked too much like an eight, especially on the small coins. Since the Open 3 was introduced after the With Arrows coins were introduced, it makes sense that there are no coins without the arrows that have the Open 3.
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