Probstein's Joe Montana PSA 10 rookie and competitive eating contest at the national

wrestlingcardking · July 16, 2015 2:37AM

Obviously a very nice prize with a Joe Montana PSA 10 rookie, but the competitive eating contest of a bunch of chocolate for a $1000 sounds like a nightmare for a diabetic.

addicted2ebay · July 16, 2015 2:45AM

I'd give it shot but there's no way I can make this year.

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MULLINS5 · July 16, 2015 3:04AM

I would win the chocolate eating contest. No doubt in my mind. Hopefully they have it when the National is on the east coast next year...I'll play!

MULLINS5 · July 16, 2015 3:06AM

...that 10 has some soft corners.

What does this card typically sell for?

lawnmowerman · July 16, 2015 3:20AM

<< I would win the chocolate eating contest. No doubt in my mind. >>

You're going to be competing against five girls that were just dumped by their boyfriends. My money is on one of them lol!

MULLINS5 · July 16, 2015 3:25AM

<< 

<< I would win the chocolate eating contest. No doubt in my mind. >>

You're going to be competing against five girls that were just dumped by their boyfriends. My money is on one of them lol! >>

lol!

miwlvrn · July 16, 2015 3:32AM

<< ...that 10 has some soft corners.

What does this card typically sell for? >>

Between $12,000 and $15,000.

Interesting gimmick. This particular card effectively sells for approximately $16,500 once you subtract the $1,000 cash prize, roughly $2,000+ or so in consolation prizes for 174 people, and 25 boxes of chocolate. Probstein ends up getting a huge advertising slot by holding this as a stage event.

jfkheat · July 16, 2015 3:39AM

There will only be two out of the 200 that will come out of this as a winner and one of those will be sick for the rest of the weekend. 24 of the other 198 will get a box of chocolate and the rest will get $10 to $25 in junk cards. I don't like those odds.
James

ReggieCleveland · July 16, 2015 4:14AM

I don't know how to post the popcorn emoticon but if someone could post a preemptive one for me, that would be great.

miwlvrn · July 16, 2015 4:25AM

I wonder what happens if they don't sell out all 200 boxes?

Will the consigner shill by purchasing $100 raffle tix to their own item?

72skywalker · July 16, 2015 5:02AM

Can this really be considered a "live break" when he already knows what the boxes all contain? I always thought that live breaks were from unopened boxes. I could be wrong.

dennis07 · July 16, 2015 5:30AM

"There will only be two out of the 200 that will come out of this as a winner and one of those will be sick for the rest of the weekend"

Now that's funny. But seriously can't eating this much sugar literally kill some people?

SultanOfSwat · July 16, 2015 5:39AM

<< 

<< ...that 10 has some soft corners.

What does this card typically sell for? >>

Between $12,000 and $15,000.

Interesting gimmick. This particular card effectively sells for approximately $16,500 once you subtract the $1,000 cash prize, roughly $2,000+ or so in consolation prizes for 174 people, and 25 boxes of chocolate. Probstein ends up getting a huge advertising slot by holding this as a stage event. >>

Yet another reason why I will continue to give PWCC my business.

KbKards · July 16, 2015 5:54AM

Can this really be considered a "live break" when he already knows what the boxes all contain? I always thought that live breaks were from unopened boxes. I could be wrong.

The live break may be referring to the competitive eating portion of the contest.

wrestlingcardking · July 16, 2015 6:00AM

Why do I have contest images from the movie "Stand By Me" in my head now?

"Yes, Vern. The contestants did have to pay $100 to enter the contest."

"Great story, Gordie!"

PMKAY · July 16, 2015 7:14AM

Is this type of listing not against eBay rules?

JustinsShoebox · July 16, 2015 7:29AM

Typically, yes, chance listings are against ebay auction rules. That was my first thought then I read the description. He's getting around this by giving a "box" with the purchase. The receipt of said box is not chance.

It's the same as receiving a top loader in a pick your team box/case rip online and getting the items for that team as a bonus.

I do think his title does go against e-bay rules, though. Don't think it should not say "Win a chance..". EBay may have a problem with that. But this is no different than anything the case breakers are doing.

Justin

begsu1013 · July 16, 2015 7:50AM

Sdub · July 16, 2015 7:55AM

<< 

<< 

<< ...that 10 has some soft corners.

What does this card typically sell for? >>

Between $12,000 and $15,000.

Interesting gimmick. This particular card effectively sells for approximately $16,500 once you subtract the $1,000 cash prize, roughly $2,000+ or so in consolation prizes for 174 people, and 25 boxes of chocolate. Probstein ends up getting a huge advertising slot by holding this as a stage event. >>

Yet another reason why I will continue to give PWCC my business. >>

This. Seems like an act of desperation by Prober. He's an action consignor, right?

Sdub · July 16, 2015 7:57AM

<< will let you take your pick, reggie:

or:

>>

Haven't seen these before, classic. Nice work!

ReggieCleveland · July 16, 2015 8:03AM

Definitely going Hader.

begsu1013 · July 16, 2015 8:06AM

edited for ya!

PMKAY · July 16, 2015 8:19AM

WTF is the point of the chocolate eating contest?

Gemyanks10 · July 16, 2015 8:22AM

<< WTF is the point of the chocolate eating contest? >>

I can't figure out one. It's pretty lame, and I want to puke just thinking about it. Binge eating chocolate? No thank you..especially being that it's in the July heat and such..turrible just turrible lmao.

Constantine · July 16, 2015 9:34AM

Those odds stink. I am not sure how winning an entrance in a chocolate eating contest is something people really would want to do in the first place?

thehallmark · July 16, 2015 9:57AM

Yeah, what makes Probstein think he can just try to have fun and give away prizes?! He surely has sinister intentions.

I'm sure glad to have the CU board to turn to at times like these.

PMKAY · July 16, 2015 10:04AM

<< Yeah, what makes Probstein think he can just try to have fun and give away prizes?! He surely has sinister intentions.

I'm sure glad to have the CU board to turn to at times like these. >>

He's not giving anything away.

mlbfan2 · July 16, 2015 10:19AM

How long before ebay shuts it down? Enter your guess here - the person who guesses the closest wins a box of chocolate.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-bonus-prize-giveaway-raffle.html

We don't allow listings that sell an opportunity to win an item or prize either by chance or in connection with a skill contest.

Specifically, we don't allow listings that promote giveaways, lotteries, sweepstakes, random drawings, raffles, contests, or prizes. These types of promotions are highly regulated and may be unlawful in many states.

We may run such promotions on eBay sites, and we may allow our partners or third-party companies to run promotions that follow applicable laws.

The guidelines below are intended to provide guidance, and should not be viewed as an exhaustive list.

Make sure your listing follows these guidelines. If it doesn't, it may be removed, and you may be subject to a range of other actions, including limits of your buying and selling privileges and suspension of your account.

MULLINS5 · July 16, 2015 10:27AM

My guess is that it doesn't get shut down.

begsu1013 · July 16, 2015 10:33AM

ok, i gave everybody ample time. no one went for it so....

i anxiously await for someone to use the "negative white space" for a clever probstein joke

gimme your best!!

ReggieCleveland · July 16, 2015 10:37AM

Just out of curiosity, when was the last time this particular card sold?

SultanOfSwat · July 16, 2015 10:47AM

<< Just out of curiosity, when was the last time this particular card sold? >>

Probstein supposedly sold this very card on June 23, 2015 for $12,202.00. Now, it appears again for this latest publicity stunt.

ReggieCleveland · July 16, 2015 12:03PM

I'm shocked -- SHOCKED, I say -- to find out there's gambling going on in this establishment.

Baseballfans · July 16, 2015 3:24PM

<< How long before ebay shuts it down? Enter your guess here - the person who guesses the closest wins a box of chocolate.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-bonus-prize-giveaway-raffle.html

q]

So anyone reporting this to eBay? As of right now 17 sold that is at least $1530 for PROBSTEIN123 & he doesn't have to ship anything.

belz · July 16, 2015 7:49PM

I'm willing to bet he's pissed he did this..jumping the shark by trying to be cute..the chocolate eating contest could be the single worst idea I've heard in a long time..should have consulted with, hmmmmm...anyone. Hilarious responses.

SultanOfSwat · July 17, 2015 12:50AM

<< ok, i gave everybody ample time. no one went for it so....

i anxiously await for someone to use the "negative white space" for a clever probstein joke

gimme your best!! >>

Centered?

mlbfan2 · July 17, 2015 12:54AM

Are the boxes of chocolate FASC?

PaulThePirate · July 17, 2015 1:00AM

Ahoy. th' eatin' chocolate be dirty 'n bad fer me teeth. I'd like to get me hands on that wes specimen laddie fer such an idea.

belz · July 17, 2015 5:27AM

<< Are the boxes of chocolate FASC? >>

Lol

miwlvrn · July 18, 2015 5:48AM

<< How long before ebay shuts it down? Enter your guess here - the person who guesses the closest wins a box of chocolate.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-bonus-prize-giveaway-raffle.html

We don't allow listings that sell an opportunity to win an item or prize either by chance or in connection with a skill contest.

Specifically, we don't allow listings that promote giveaways, lotteries, sweepstakes, random drawings, raffles, contests, or prizes. These types of promotions are highly regulated and may be unlawful in many states.

We may run such promotions on eBay sites, and we may allow our partners or third-party companies to run promotions that follow applicable laws.

The guidelines below are intended to provide guidance, and should not be viewed as an exhaustive list.

Make sure your listing follows these guidelines. If it doesn't, it may be removed, and you may be subject to a range of other actions, including limits of your buying and selling privileges and suspension of your account. >>

Just curious, as I am neither pro nor con Probstein, how is it that the listing hasn't been pulled yet? The text clearly expresses that it is an opportunity to win an item by chance, while even using the specific word "chance", and also includes an additional skill contest with the whole chocolate box eating thing. It would be difficult to find a more blatant example of an ebay listing policy violation, yet this one persists. Different rules for different people? Or have they just not gotten around to pulling it yet? Obviously neither the first nor last instance of ebay selectively enforcing vs. ignoring their policies, but this "item" does seem to raise a few questions...

PMKAY · July 18, 2015 7:54AM

<< 

<< How long before ebay shuts it down? Enter your guess here - the person who guesses the closest wins a box of chocolate.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-bonus-prize-giveaway-raffle.html

We don't allow listings that sell an opportunity to win an item or prize either by chance or in connection with a skill contest.

Specifically, we don't allow listings that promote giveaways, lotteries, sweepstakes, random drawings, raffles, contests, or prizes. These types of promotions are highly regulated and may be unlawful in many states.

We may run such promotions on eBay sites, and we may allow our partners or third-party companies to run promotions that follow applicable laws.

The guidelines below are intended to provide guidance, and should not be viewed as an exhaustive list.

Make sure your listing follows these guidelines. If it doesn't, it may be removed, and you may be subject to a range of other actions, including limits of your buying and selling privileges and suspension of your account. >>

Just curious, as I am neither pro nor con Probstein, how is it that the listing hasn't been pulled yet? The text clearly expresses that it is an opportunity to win an item by chance, while even using the specific word "chance", and also includes an additional skill contest with the whole chocolate box eating thing. It would be difficult to find a more blatant example of an ebay listing policy violation, yet this one persists. Different rules for different people? Or have they just not gotten around to pulling it yet? Obviously neither the first nor last instance of ebay selectively enforcing vs. ignoring their policies, but this "item" does seem to raise a few questions... >>

The fact that every person who buys the chance to win the Montana gets a box of chocolates and 10 or 15 bucks worth of cards gets around any listing violation. I think.

charrigan · July 18, 2015 8:33AM

The online box breakers have a similar issue. The get around it via a legal technicality (that might not really be a technicality, but eBay allows it): the buyer gets a guaranteed item, i.e. a "link" to a YouTube video. There, when they watch that link, they also win all the players from a box from a certain team (subject, of course, to chance). That second part, which is obviously what people are actually paying for, is incidental to the purchase according to the language of most eBay listings of that ilk.

ReggieCleveland · July 18, 2015 8:38AM

Same thing is done with Topps Bunt digital cards. Seller is "selling" a paperclip (local pickup only) and as a bonus the buyer gets so-and-so digital card.

I'd be leery of anyone looking to arrange pickup plans for the paperclip though.

Sdub · July 18, 2015 11:14AM

<< Are the boxes of chocolate FASC? >>

This!

miwlvrn · July 18, 2015 11:16AM

<< The online box breakers have a similar issue. The get around it via a legal technicality (that might not really be a technicality, but eBay allows it): the buyer gets a guaranteed item, i.e. a "link" to a YouTube video. There, when they watch that link, they also win all the players from a box from a certain team (subject, of course, to chance). That second part, which is obviously what people are actually paying for, is incidental to the purchase according to the language of most eBay listings of that ilk. >>

Interesting, got it, thanks.

As for the paper clip example, I guess it is a bit like the ticket scalpers outside stadiums who are selling you a pen and happen to give you free tickets with your purchase.

Probstein123 · July 21, 2015 6:11AM

I am getting ready to order the chocolate....

how many pieces is a good number ? 20 ? 25 ?

LMK your thoughts....

thanks
rick

wrestlingcardking · July 21, 2015 6:11AM

miwlvrn · July 21, 2015 6:32AM

<< I am getting ready to order the chocolate....

how many pieces is a good number ? 20 ? 25 ?

LMK your thoughts....

thanks
rick >>

It depends on which format of eating contest you are using:

- Fixed amount of chocolate and the winner is whomever eats that amount first; or,
- Fixed amount of time and the winner is whomever eats the most pieces of chocolate in that time.

How much time was the actually eating time expected to take?

gemint · July 21, 2015 7:58AM

I'd rather see a vintage set break where people purchase slots and they draw the cards at the Natty. At least that way everyone wins something they want.

esquiresports · July 21, 2015 10:06AM

Looks like this auction was ended. Rick, was that at eBay's request or just your decision?

ReggieCleveland · July 21, 2015 10:09AM

<< I am getting ready to order the chocolate....

how many pieces is a good number ? 20 ? 25 ?

LMK your thoughts....

thanks
rick >>

LOL Classic!

Arthur

Probstein's Joe Montana PSA 10 rookie and competitive eating contest at the national

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