I'm the author of the original post and just found another walker with similar toning on Ebay. Those interested in maybe tripling their money can check out this 1942 walker.
If someone pays $1200 for that 1942 MS64 Walker, please shoot me a note. I have a lot more to sell you! And if Walkernut thinks that coin is actually worth $3600, I want some of whatever he is drinking!
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I'm the author of the original post and just found another walker with similar toning on Ebay. Those interested in maybe tripling their money can check out this 1942 walker.
Originally posted by: Walkernut I'm the author of the original post and just found another walker with similar toning on Ebay. Those interested in maybe tripling their money can check out this 1942 walker.
I'm the author of the original post and just found another walker with similar toning on Ebay. Those interested in maybe tripling their money can check out this 1942 walker.
Originally posted by: Walkernut I'm the author of the original post and just found another walker with similar toning on Ebay. Those interested in maybe tripling their money can check out this 1942 walker.
Did you sell it for anywhere near the $1200 asking price?
Yes. The images are pretty understated IMO and I have absolutely nothing to gain from saying so. It's a rowdy two-sided toner not for the faint of heart or for Ricko.
Originally posted by: Bochiman So, everyone that hadn't seen the coin in hand, that was going by "juiced", or scanned, pictures, or even just pictures on the internet, were telling the buyer he was hosed, buried, etc, look to have been wrong.
Last I recall, Cameonut was thinking to return the piece because it was darker than he thought, but he did like it. Of course, all the "experts" jumping all over it probably had an influence in his thinking as well.
So, who made the score then? The original seller, who may have gotten the coin back and refunded the money? Or, Cameonut if he was the one who upgraded it and sent it to auction?
Seems like all the "experts" would have left a lot of $$$ on the table.....
I didn't see this until now.
I did not upgrade the coin, but congratulate whoever did. When I received the coin in hand, it was darker than the original eBay photos. Unless my recollection was off, the coin was also much darker and not as nice as the Heritage images suggest. I actually did choose to return the coin, and it resold as a BIN for about the same price a couple of weeks later. The comments from posters here in no way influenced my decision to return it; in hand, I was not happy with it.
expert or no expert, the coin was too dark as an NGC 66 at $1200 and it's still too dark as a PCGS 67 at $7500. eBay has a return, does Heritage?? I suspect that the owner of this coin is now "buried" up to his neck with a buy-out from CAC or PCGS as the only chance of emerging from the whole sordid thing anywhere near whole.
A year from now, after skipping Starbucks each day, the buyer will have that coin free and clear in his collection - and have lost ten pounds. That's called a win win.
Just moments after I called for my "walker", TDN posted this.
Some people can see right through the "dark".... I'm guessing.
expert or no expert, the coin was too dark as an NGC 66 at $1200 and it's still too dark as a PCGS 67 at $7500. eBay has a return, does Heritage?? I suspect that the owner of this coin is now "buried" up to his neck with a buy-out from CAC or PCGS as the only chance of emerging from the whole sordid thing anywhere near whole.
and again, I am no expert.
I won't even begin to try and evaluate the image how dark it is, or is not. Are you suggesting CAC might bail the new buyer out with a big toner premium? Maybe if something is wrong with the coin, perhaps. Oh, I have no doubt they will make some kind of offer.
And to the one that likes to come blast me on a comment like this, or just about any comment I seem to make ..... I did not say anything wrong with it, so save the drama. Try offering a tough bust half variety. Same thing.
Some folks might need to have more information is all I'm saying.
Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
to be sure, I haven't knocked the coin either. I only stated what most felt, that it is too dark, even with the color, to warrant the premium, although apparently at least on person keeps disagreeing with us since the coin sells. to CAC, I was under the impression that they bought coins, so if they stickered it at 67 they would probably make an offer, the same with PCGS on a re-grade. notice too that I said anywhere near whole.
Keets, wasn't even talking to you on the blasting thing. Yes, CAC will probably make an offer. But they will tell you they're not into toning premiums, or tougher varieties on coins. So I would assume they will make a bid on a 67, not nowhere the premium paid. That's my experience. Never tried to sell them a color coin, but I have no doubt I'm not far off. I have indeed offered them a better variety that was a red book variety and they offered at the more common level. No problem I moved on quickly.
Me thinks the same with PCGS for a guarantee. They ain't gonna pay for auction fever or any fever for that matter. But it seems many folks out there aren't aware. Someone blasted me last time I brought it up and wanted to hammer me on I should't expect it, which I don't, what do I have against CAC..... nothing just some of the elitist attitudes some have about them.
And some give PCGS no credit whatsoever for the grading they do. Ever see coins for sale on BST that describe let's say CAC 65. No grading company.
Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
I'd think that if CAC was ever in position to buy this coin, they'd offer regular 67 money for it. Same with PCGS.
Without question; I feel the same way.
Coin is only colorful, when turned in the light at certain angles, judging from the NGC images and from what Cameonut has said, when he had it in hand.
Not a coin that I'd like to own, at all, and $7K is stupid money for it imho.
The frenzied buyer was almost certainly duped by the juiced images.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
You mean Wabbitt got this one wrong? Is that even possible?
Interesting thread from 2015. And I agree with the earlier post about a fingerprint...sure seems like traces of one. I was surprised that the "Fingerprint Gang" didn't run this out of town for that reason alone.
Watching a PCGS MS67 half dollar auction right now that jumped from 66 to 66+ to 67 in just the past 3 months. Will discuss it once the auction is over. A friend of mine bought this raw and made this coin back in 2008 as a MS66.
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This was the hammer price.
The pictures look fantastic but cameonut2011 thought it looked too dark, in hand, and the NGC images were dark, as well.
I trust that assessment and would likely feel the same way, so IMHO this a coin that I'd rather flip than own.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
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Both sold on Heritage for around $7000.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
That second coin is nowhere near the original, and 3 grades less and in NGC.
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I'm the author of the original post and just found another walker with similar toning on Ebay. Those interested in maybe tripling their money can check out this 1942 walker.
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I owned this coin a month ago.
I'm the author of the original post and just found another walker with similar toning on Ebay. Those interested in maybe tripling their money can check out this 1942 walker.
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I owned this coin a month ago.
Did you sell it for anywhere near the $1200 asking price?
I'm the author of the original post and just found another walker with similar toning on Ebay. Those interested in maybe tripling their money can check out this 1942 walker.
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I owned this coin a month ago.
Did you sell it for anywhere near the $1200 asking price?
Yes. The images are pretty understated IMO and I have absolutely nothing to gain from saying so. It's a rowdy two-sided toner not for the faint of heart or for Ricko.
So, everyone that hadn't seen the coin in hand, that was going by "juiced", or scanned, pictures, or even just pictures on the internet, were telling the buyer he was hosed, buried, etc, look to have been wrong.
Last I recall, Cameonut was thinking to return the piece because it was darker than he thought, but he did like it. Of course, all the "experts" jumping all over it probably had an influence in his thinking as well.
So, who made the score then? The original seller, who may have gotten the coin back and refunded the money? Or, Cameonut if he was the one who upgraded it and sent it to auction?
Seems like all the "experts" would have left a lot of $$$ on the table.....
I didn't see this until now.
I did not upgrade the coin, but congratulate whoever did. When I received the coin in hand, it was darker than the original eBay photos. Unless my recollection was off, the coin was also much darker and not as nice as the Heritage images suggest. I actually did choose to return the coin, and it resold as a BIN for about the same price a couple of weeks later. The comments from posters here in no way influenced my decision to return it; in hand, I was not happy with it.
and again, I am no expert.
A year from now, after skipping Starbucks each day, the buyer will have that coin free and clear in his collection - and have lost ten pounds. That's called a win win.
Just moments after I called for my "walker", TDN posted this.
Some people can see right through the "dark".... I'm guessing.
expert or no expert, the coin was too dark as an NGC 66 at $1200 and it's still too dark as a PCGS 67 at $7500. eBay has a return, does Heritage?? I suspect that the owner of this coin is now "buried" up to his neck with a buy-out from CAC or PCGS as the only chance of emerging from the whole sordid thing anywhere near whole.
and again, I am no expert.
I won't even begin to try and evaluate the image how dark it is, or is not. Are you suggesting CAC might bail the new buyer out with a big toner premium? Maybe if something is wrong with the coin, perhaps. Oh, I have no doubt they will make some kind of offer.
And to the one that likes to come blast me on a comment like this, or just about any comment I seem to make ..... I did not say anything wrong with it, so save the drama. Try offering a tough bust half variety. Same thing.
Some folks might need to have more information is all I'm saying.
to be sure, I haven't knocked the coin either. I only stated what most felt, that it is too dark, even with the color, to warrant the premium, although apparently at least on person keeps disagreeing with us since the coin sells. to CAC, I was under the impression that they bought coins, so if they stickered it at 67 they would probably make an offer, the same with PCGS on a re-grade. notice too that I said anywhere near whole.
Me thinks the same with PCGS for a guarantee. They ain't gonna pay for auction fever or any fever for that matter. But it seems many folks out there aren't aware. Someone blasted me last time I brought it up and wanted to hammer me on I should't expect it, which I don't, what do I have against CAC..... nothing just some of the elitist attitudes some have about them.
And some give PCGS no credit whatsoever for the grading they do. Ever see coins for sale on BST that describe let's say CAC 65. No grading company.
I'd think that if CAC was ever in position to buy this coin, they'd offer regular 67 money for it. Same with PCGS.
Without question; I feel the same way.
Coin is only colorful, when turned in the light at certain angles, judging from the NGC images and from what Cameonut has said, when he had it in hand.
Not a coin that I'd like to own, at all, and $7K is stupid money for it imho.
The frenzied buyer was almost certainly duped by the juiced images.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
so you guys would agree with me that the owner may be buried??
I do. I think he's buried deep, unless he can fool someone else, as he was fooled.
He will still take about a $1000 loss on commission fees, even if he can find such a person.
Nobody would pay $7k for an almost black coin.
$7k is steep for what started out as a $150-200 coin, imho.
I wouldn't pay that much, even if it was a bright, vivid rainbow but that's just me.
It had a flat strike, also, IIRC.
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Interesting thread from 2015. And I agree with the earlier post about a fingerprint...sure seems like traces of one. I was surprised that the "Fingerprint Gang" didn't run this out of town for that reason alone.
Watching a PCGS MS67 half dollar auction right now that jumped from 66 to 66+ to 67 in just the past 3 months. Will discuss it once the auction is over. A friend of mine bought this raw and made this coin back in 2008 as a MS66.