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1 oz bullion silver coins winners vs. losers

bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭



Anyone have any opinions on potential winners or losers?

For instance generally speaking as time goes by premiums on older silver Pandas go up pretty reliably.

Koalas and Kooks appear to be a good value over time. With some years having higher premiums than others however

Certain Aussie lunar series have been better than others , year of the dragon for instance initially did very well. It seems as though others like the year of the horse lack appeal.

Fiji turtles , Armenian Noahs ark are both dead in the water .

Britannia's ? No clue I only own 1

Somalia elephants I don't know much about but they seems to have a premium.

Austrian philharmonics are going nowhere right? Deadsville

Canada is a mess with all the random privy marked maples and the wildlife coins who can keep track? It seems like if you can get them a little over spot its fine but they are not worth a premium.

What about series that were good but are being counterfeited and are losing their appeal? Will Pandas over the long term be hit hard by this?

Some of these series had limited mintages initially that were lifted , kooks for instance were held to 300,000 I believe and thats no longer the case.


Who likes what and why?

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  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At this point all of the regulars have the same value. I pirate stack as much variety as I can when the deals are there, so variety at equal spread works for me.

    Avoiding the limited issues, but I haven't seen much in the past 6 years worth much extra across the board.
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In looking at the current year issues, I really like the 25th anniversary Kookaburras w/ the dual date and special P25 mint mark.
  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761
    IMHO there is no winner anymore.
    Pandas and Britannias were the winner until the mintage was raised. Thr old years are now barely accessible from a stacker standpoint.

    I like Philhas for their mirrored edge (and because I am european).
    Britannia is a very classy coin.
    Panda are the nicest.
    The Russian George coins had potentials but are too expensive and hard to find, not real bullion.
    If I were to leave in the US, I'd obviously go with ASEs.
    But I am not...and I like gold better! image
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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>IMHO there is no winner anymore.
    Pandas and Britannias were the winner until the mintage was raised. Thr old years are now barely accessible from a stacker standpoint.

    I like Philhas for their mirrored edge (and because I am european).
    Britannia is a very classy coin.
    Panda are the nicest.
    The Russian George coins had potentials but are too expensive and hard to find, not real bullion.
    If I were to leave in the US, I'd obviously go with ASEs.
    But I am not...and I like gold better! image >>




    The philas seem to be a true bullion coin in that no one thinks any particular year is worth more than another.

    The Koalas on the other hand started around the same time but have key dates which if you bought them at the time of issue are worth quite a bit more than melt potentially.

    I've never heard of the Russian coins.

    Since you are European .... you might know this image is there a French or German or Italian 1oz bullion coin? I'm not aware of any. I know the Germans and French make a lot of commemoratives but they aren't really bullion priced. The commemoratives I've seen seem like junk silver . For instance the older German 5 and 10 mark silvers were endless boring series with no appeal whatsoever.




  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761
    The Philhas are pretty recent, that may be the reason why there is no difference between the years. (edited to add: didn't see your comment about Koala, you are correct but mind that silver in Europe gets taxed, the bullion game is harder to be played)
    They are the only bullion coins from Europe, as far as I know.
    France issue silver coin at face value but it had more sense when gold and silver were higher. UK and Canada do the same, nothimg special IMO.
    We though have PAMP in Europe if we want to play with bullion! image
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,641 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just stack ASE's I went through a phase with Pandas and Britts but figured it's all the same, I might buy some random generics now and then but for the most part it's ASE's outside of low mint rounds I'm all about expecting spot when the price point is good for selling ( North of $30 ) most of my buys have been for under $20 a piece
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good question, Bronco.

    I knew better, but I bought into the 1 oz. Freedom Girl Rounds, both unc and proofs. I like the design, but in the final analysis there are other silver rounds that are just as well-made and just as cool.

    Any future silver 1 ozer buys will be Silver Eagles, but I'm leaning towards the 5 oz ATBs for my next bulk purchases of silver.
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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Good question, Bronco.

    I knew better, but I bought into the 1 oz. Freedom Girl Rounds, both unc and proofs. I like the design, but in the final analysis there are other silver rounds that are just as well-made and just as cool.

    Any future silver 1 ozer buys will be Silver Eagles, but I'm leaning towards the 5 oz ATBs for my next bulk purchases of silver. >>





    Some of the series start okay but turn out awful. The aussie lunar 2 series for instance. The first lunar series was great but now they have muddied it up with all these colorized coins and oddball proofs. Is anyone even clear on how many different kinds there are?

    Then there is Canada , I like the look of the reverse proof maples but the RCM can run an idea into the ground like nobodies business image e=mc2 privy mark ?? Seriously ??? image
  • APMEX, last weekend, had a nice deal on a 25-coin mint tube of 2015 Mexican Libertads. I happened on them on June 18th (the sale was only for that one day, I believe, I got in just under the wire). They had them listed in the non-bullion category ,'coins-Mexico', so the ebucks came in handy with 4X 'bucks. It was a sweet li'l deal, as they were 'on sale' for $469.50 (as opposed to $521 and change now), 4X ebucks, 1% CC, 1% Mr.Rebates, it worked out really nice!

    These were my first Libertads, 'in hand', and after taking them out of the mint tube, they really are a very eye-appealing coin. The obverse's Winged Victory is really beautiful, and the different coats of arms (sic?) are really cool. I know that as far as 'winners vs. losers', once they raised mintages, much like nibanny mentions about the Pandas and Brittanias, the more recent years are no better/worse than any of the others, but this series, like any other, has it's 'stand-out' years'.
    I'll come up with something, eventually.
  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
    Depends on "the times"
    In PM bear markets as we are in now it all becomes simply bullion and a search for the lowest price.
    No one wants to pay any premiums for anything.
    When the market for PMs is rolling like in 2010-11 them premiums soar, people buy more esoteric stuff thinking the prices will only continue to rise.
    It's a roller coaster for sure.....like all other commodities, stocks, real estate or whatever.
    Depends on the market trajectory.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    While I have some other silver coins (old German, some rounds) I prefer and mainly stack ASE's. The random rounds are just because I find them attractive or interesting. Cheers, RickO
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My opinion is to stay away from generic silver rounds.
    There are lots and lots of them and the novelty has worn off.

    I can envision pretty good discounts on rounds.

    I see FUTURE silver buyers concentrating on government issue .999 product. US, Mexican, Canadian, etc. Also "junk" pre-64 US silver coins.

    You might (will) pay a premium for the govt. sludge, but it will remain liquid in any market.

    As I noted in an earlier thread, a ...new... practice I'm seeing is the question, "what kind?" when discussing generic rounds with dealers.

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