silver at melt plus some key date dollars...better than apmex or provident
hopsin
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66 40% halves
3 90% silver dollars (1886 s morgan whizzed w marker stain vg 08, 1927 s peace cleaned g 06, 1934 s peace g 04)
3 90% halves
13 90% quarters (includes 2 1917 p standing liberty quarters in f 12, and some barber quarters)
4 war nickels
10 90% dimes (includes mercuries and barbers)
I am asking for 285 delivered to the continental united states on this lot.
3 90% silver dollars (1886 s morgan whizzed w marker stain vg 08, 1927 s peace cleaned g 06, 1934 s peace g 04)
3 90% halves
13 90% quarters (includes 2 1917 p standing liberty quarters in f 12, and some barber quarters)
4 war nickels
10 90% dimes (includes mercuries and barbers)
I am asking for 285 delivered to the continental united states on this lot.
Positive BST transactions with Timbuk3, coindeuce, charlottedude.
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I bought the above lot of coins on June 20th and sent him a check as requested.
He just emailed me today saying that he is returning my check
because he no longer wishes to sell them. Here is his message
"Hey I'm sorry it costs too much to mail the coins...they are so heavy. I am mailing you your check back. You will lose no money. I feel bad and I know it is definitely my fault for not doing the deal after I agreed to it. I admit it is my fault. I will send you your check back. You will lose no money. "
I told him about flat rate and the cost is not that bad and here is his next response. Besides as usual I presold the coins locally to protect against a downturn since he needed to clear the check.
"sorry. you can give me negative feedback. i am just being honest. i didn't take any money from you. i didn't steal from you. i will not cash your check. you will lose nothing but time. sorry man."
Nothing honest about this guy. Wish I had the power to boot him from board.
Plenty of high dollar transactions :
jdimmick, commoncents05, Smittys, guitarwes
<< <i>Just so we all know about member hopsin.
I bought the above lot of coins on June 20th and sent him a check as requested.
He just emailed me today saying that he is returning my check
because he no longer wishes to sell them. Here is his message
"Hey I'm sorry it costs too much to mail the coins...they are so heavy. I am mailing you your check back. You will lose no money. I feel bad and I know it is definitely my fault for not doing the deal after I agreed to it. I admit it is my fault. I will send you your check back. You will lose no money. "
I told him about flat rate and the cost is not that bad and here is his next response. Besides as usual I presold the coins locally to protect against a downturn since he needed to clear the check.
"sorry. you can give me negative feedback. i am just being honest. i didn't take any money from you. i didn't steal from you. i will not cash your check. you will lose nothing but time. sorry man."
Nothing honest about this guy. Wish I had the power to boot him from board. >>
Wow, if this wasn't a public forum, I'd say what a
I am impressed. Most people would not go to the trouble of locking in rates on a deal of that size. I mean, the amount at risk was likely less than the cost of a cheeseburger and a pint of beer.
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Once again, I've been calling for a feedback system here for years now for matters exacly like this. It wouldn't eliminate this from happening, but it would keep people more honest.
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
Here, your word on following thru with an agreed transaction is your bond. It's all we realy have here being there's no feedback system. You have now broken that bond, by your own admission. I commend you for being honest about that, but your repuatation is seriously damaged now. If you'd do this for a relatively small deal, would you expect someone to trust you on a large deal?
<< <i>I didn't steal from anybody or scam/rip anybody off. I have mailed him the check back. I didn't even open the envelope he sent me. I simply mailed it back. I am not going to take anybody's money. Enough with the morality police here. Anybody can write anything about anybody over the internet. Ok I agreed verbally over the internet to a deal and ended up mailing the guy his check back and not doing the deal. Guilty as charged. Another user agreed to buy coins from me over a personal message on this forum then backed out of the deal and I am not here ripping that guy. You guys are so angry. >>
I completely understand your position. I'm not angry. Nor am I holding you accountable to your deal with someone, when upon realization of the costs for shipping from outside the U.S. was cost prohibitive.
My panties are not in a bunch.
This hasn't been stated as being the issue, it was because they were too heavy, not from coming from out of Country.
I'm only going from what has been publicly stated, maybe you know more about it?
<< <i>Just so we all know about member hopsin.
I bought the above lot of coins on June 20th and sent him a check as requested.
He just emailed me today saying that he is returning my check
because he no longer wishes to sell them. Here is his message
"Hey I'm sorry it costs too much to mail the coins...they are so heavy. I am mailing you your check back. You will lose no money. I feel bad and I know it is definitely my fault for not doing the deal after I agreed to it. I admit it is my fault. I will send you your check back. You will lose no money. "
I told him about flat rate and the cost is not that bad and here is his next response. Besides as usual I presold the coins locally to protect against a downturn since he needed to clear the check.
"sorry. you can give me negative feedback. i am just being honest. i didn't take any money from you. i didn't steal from you. i will not cash your check. you will lose nothing but time. sorry man."
Nothing honest about this guy. Wish I had the power to boot him from board. >>
Is USPS FLAT RATE available from which I assume is Canada?
<< <i>when upon realization of the costs for shipping from outside the U.S. was cost prohibitive.
This hasn't been stated as being the issue, it was because they were too heavy, not from coming from out of Country.
I'm only going from what has been publicly stated, maybe you know more about it? >>
It would seem that the seller should have checked about shipping costs BEFORE he put the items up for sale.
<< <i>That would sour me on a seller.... in fact, I now would not do business with that individual. Cheers, RickO >>
Not sure it would be a deal breaker for me, but if there was something I was interested in the seller has sort of put himself into the position of needing to ship first.
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It would seem that the seller should have checked about shipping costs BEFORE he put the items up for sale. >>
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only reasonable choice is Expedited parcel to the US. Or, FEDEX ground... but all still expensive.
nevertheless, a deal is a deal. and a buy-sell contract was in place between the parties... legally binding if enforced... at least in Canada.
sound like the seller is a very sore looser with no business sense whatsoever.. is not accountable for his actions
on the black list he goes..
<< <i>This seller has stated in a previous post that he is in the VA area, so it has nothing to do with overseas shipping or outside the country. It has nothing to do with shipping at all, really. You could fit all of those coins in a flat rate priority mail box that comes with tracking and $50 insurance. You're looking at $5 - $13 to ship total. >>
Hard to believe that he doesn't/didn't know about flat rate. A small FRB would be less than $6. Even tho $50 insurance is included, the USPS won't cover a claim for that because it's bullion.
<< <i>why does anyone think he is in Canada? He has said in a previous post he is in VA. Shipping is not an issue. >>
I did not know that at the time.
because this place is famous for some people reading something into what's being discussed that is not there, and they don't read entire posts'. They only read what they think is what the point is rather than reading and forming an opinion based on what was said in its entirety.
They have their opinion formed solely and entirely from who is posting it before they even open the thread rather than what is being said, in its entirety.
Sorry, but that's the truth.
As far as the topic, big mistake for the seller. As far as pre-selling what you don't have in hand yet is not something I would ever consider doing. If I can't wait the time it takes to get to me to lock in a price or whatever, then I don't do the transaction. But that's me. To each his own, but know the risk in doing that.
<< <i>why does anyone think he is in Canada? He has said in a previous post he is in VA. Shipping is not an issue.
because this place is famous for some people reading something into what's being discussed that is not there, and they don't read entire posts'. They only read what they think is what the point is rather than reading and forming an opinion based on what was said in its entirety.
They have their opinion formed solely and entirely from who is posting it before they even open the thread rather than what is being said, in its entirety.
Sorry, but that's the truth.
As far as the topic, big mistake for the seller. As far as pre-selling what you don't have in hand yet is not something I would ever consider doing. If I can't wait the time it takes to get to me to lock in a price or whatever, then I don't do the transaction. But that's me. To each his own, but know the risk in doing that. >>
I don't remember reading any previous posts or threads where he said he was from VA. He said the stuff was too heavy to ship and another poster [who I cited/quoted] mentioned flat rate. Since I couldn't believe the seller wasn't aware of flat rate priority shipping, I assumed he may have been in Canada where it wasn't available. Simple as THAT!
That would be a large mistake for the "plaintiff" since the "defendant" has already openly stated to the jury here that he simply returned the envelope unopened. The ex-spurts here abound.
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Easy to say in hindsight, look at the time of my post and look when the defendant said he didn't open it. Also it's very assuming to believe what someone who backed out on a transaction "says" they did. jmho
And it is also very assuming to believe that one who allegedly has been persecuted has given all of the private facts of the issue in an unbiased manner in a message forum.
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ok, good to know that you're condoning the actions of the seller. Good to know, not that it would matter for me anyway, but good for everyone to know. Thank you
<< <i>Why does POM like to turn these BST threads into discussion threads where he isn't a party to the transaction. Same for badger man. Neither have anything to do with this guy hopsin backing out of the deal. I have to wonder about the mental stability of people sometimes. >>
It's an opportunity to learn, duh.
The buyer really didn't need to post, but since he did people are going to discuss it.
If you're going to back out of a deal try to make yourself a little more credible rather than a weak excuse that most folks can see through.
In spite of what some here imply, renegging on a deal doesn't automatically make you a thief or a crook. Others have come here and actually stolen a buyer's money. I wouldn't necessarily write the seller off, but any future deals would now be on MY terms and not his.
So he's on my stay away from list.
<< <i>great news for me I was going to do a large purchase with him.
So he's on my stay away from list. >>
Absolutely, hopsin has lost all credibility and should be on everyone's no buy list unless he delivers first...
My bet he will never offer or try to sell here again...
Edit to add : prolly should have worded better, since he has no credibility here in the 1st place... Tough to lose it...
of the seller's previous listings. This is a valuable source of feedback and can be more valuable if
we all reply with the results of our transactions.
At the very least we should reply for negative results like I did so others can make an
informed decision before dealing with sellers like hopsin.
BTW, I did warn him I would leave negative feedback and gave him every chance to correct things
before I posted my negative reply.
Plenty of high dollar transactions :
jdimmick, commoncents05, Smittys, guitarwes
<< <i>He prob just lifted your checking acct #s from your check. I would keep a look out for unusual charges! >>
The seller may not be suspect .. but having your checking account # opens the world to all kinds of fraud... name, address ,checking #.. wow
Word must be out ....BST becoming an easy mark to score against honest buyers
<< <i>As quoted from "piecesofme" - "Thanks for the advice to stay away from any dealings with him. As already advised, i'd seriously consider closing the checking account."
That would be a large mistake for the "plaintiff" since the "defendant" has already openly stated to the jury here that he simply returned the envelope unopened. The ex-spurts here abound.
WOW .. returned the envelope unopened ....ever hear of opening mail and resealing.. won't say how .....look it up
I would buy from hopsin again. There's your feedback.
And to add: POM, you've shown your lack of character and inability to think for yourself by having to step in and defend a crybaby who feels the need to air his petty grievance in public. Why don't you try pre-selling bullion that you haven't secured from an unfamiliar party, since you and crybaby seem to think alike. . . oh, yes that's right you're too shrewd or too wimpy to do that.
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And I think folks either have, or are making up their minds about you with that comment. Expect to see downward projections in your sales here.
<< <i>WOW ! Ever heard of carrying the torch and pitchfork ? Your prejudice is painfully obvious. The newb kid made one mistake and everyone here has him convicted as a Class A white collar felon. For the record, I spent several hundred dollars with hopsin, received all the merchandise I ordered, and with exceptionally good service. Too bad the forum would rather side with a crybaby.
And I think folks either have, or are making up their minds about you with that comment. Expect to see downward projections in your sales here. >>
I have to agree with POM. Defending unethical behavior reflects badly on the person doing so and not following through on a transaction is certainly unethical.
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from this seller. It was as described.
Deal went smooth and without a
hitch !!! :-)