So it seems like Fritsch has some of the only large quantities of cases left. The question now is how much? If there is tons of it in their warehouse then they are smart making sure they trickle out a little at a time so the market never gets over supplied at any one time. If you think of it as an investment for them either they are brilliant or just lucky. They could have been sitting on cases and cases of worthless cardboard if the prices never went up. As we all know prices when sky high from whatever they paid for this stuff. Now they are sitting on an investment that pays higher and higher dividends every year. I wish I could lock in on an investment like that.
Love those 70's - early 80's packs and boxes...send me a message if you are selling because I am buying
They guy with the 1978 Topps FB Cello case just made about a 30% return (less fees/other costs) on the price they paid a few months ago. That is great if you think of it as an investment. Again this came from Frtisch as it seems.
Love those 70's - early 80's packs and boxes...send me a message if you are selling because I am buying
<< <i>So it seems like Fritsch has some of the only large quantities of cases left. The question now is how much? If there is tons of it in their warehouse then they are smart making sure they trickle out a little at a time so the market never gets over supplied at any one time. If you think of it as an investment for them either they are brilliant or just lucky. They could have been sitting on cases and cases of worthless cardboard if the prices never went up. As we all know prices when sky high from whatever they paid for this stuff. Now they are sitting on an investment that pays higher and higher dividends every year. I wish I could lock in on an investment like that. >>
I've never heard of anyone ever buying an unopened case from Fristch. Granted they could make a pretty penny from selling boxes but I'd think factory sealed cases would command a higher premium.
Lots of speculation which is fun. The evidence though, that currently there are no cases available anywhere public, is not as fun.
Well if the National was any indication there is very little being put out for sale. I guess it could still be in hiding but it was not out at the Nat'l. Of course BBCE had the most impressive display and yes they did have a few cases out for sale. I really liked the 1975 Mini wax case for $50,000 but I couldn't pull the trigger on that one. I spoke to Steve and he did say that anything pre-1978 is drying up. I did notice some other dealers with some boxes of late 70's and early 80's but not too much. It would be great to hear about a big find of old cases.
Love those 70's - early 80's packs and boxes...send me a message if you are selling because I am buying
I don't follow unopened material so the answer to this question might be well known. But is there any idea or sense of what Fritsch might have in their warehouse?
<< <i>I don't follow unopened material so the answer to this question might be well known. But is there any idea or sense of what Fritsch might have in their warehouse? >>
Not quantity, but the issues are pretty well known. Very little wax (72 BK, 73 BB)... a few racks (72 FB, 79 BB & FB).... several cello (68, 70 & 75 BB and 75 & 78 FB)... and lots of BB vending (all 70s). IMO they probably have other stuff they no longer advertise or sell... slowly consigning them out.
I told this story before, but in the early 1990s I was in a home in northern Wisconsin which was filled, floor-to-ceiling, with unopened cases from the 1970s. The owner was a friend of the family and he had a custom climate control system installed to protect the cards. I believe he bought them when they cards were issued and stashed them away. I have no idea if he still has them or what happened to the cases, but my jaw hit the floor when I walked down the stairs. Oh, he also brought his safe deposit box with his 1952 Mantle and other show-stoppers. Just amazing.
I believe I posted this once before and another board member said "yup, I've been there too." It was just amazing to see in person.
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BTW, the 1978 Football case is no longer available. That was fast!
<< <i>So it seems like Fritsch has some of the only large quantities of cases left. The question now is how much? If there is tons of it in their warehouse then they are smart making sure they trickle out a little at a time so the market never gets over supplied at any one time. If you think of it as an investment for them either they are brilliant or just lucky. They could have been sitting on cases and cases of worthless cardboard if the prices never went up. As we all know prices when sky high from whatever they paid for this stuff. Now they are sitting on an investment that pays higher and higher dividends every year. I wish I could lock in on an investment like that. >>
I've never heard of anyone ever buying an unopened case from Fristch. Granted they could make a pretty penny from selling boxes but I'd think factory sealed cases would command a higher premium.
Lots of speculation which is fun. The evidence though, that currently there are no cases available anywhere public, is not as fun.
<< <i>I don't follow unopened material so the answer to this question might be well known. But is there any idea or sense of what Fritsch might have in their warehouse? >>
Not quantity, but the issues are pretty well known. Very little wax (72 BK, 73 BB)... a few racks (72 FB, 79 BB & FB).... several cello (68, 70 & 75 BB and 75 & 78 FB)... and lots of BB vending (all 70s). IMO they probably have other stuff they no longer advertise or sell... slowly consigning them out.
I believe I posted this once before and another board member said "yup, I've been there too." It was just amazing to see in person.