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Freezer toned coins entombed in Lucite

nencoinnencoin Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭✭
We had a small group of Morgans encased in a block of Lucite. We broke it into a couple of pieces then put them in a freezer with the thought that they'd be easier to break out. Turns out coins can tone in a freezer! These images were taken after we had taken them out of the freezer and started the breaking out process. While they were in the freezer, the only section of the toned coin that was exposed to air was the top third of the coin which shows the color.

Edited to include a picture of the freezer we used. It's a mini-fridge and we've never had any food product in the freezer portion. But the freezer is definitely not airtight from the rest of the fridge.

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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,503 ✭✭✭✭✭
    very cool (pun intended)

    I would imagine that people will now start freezing their Taco Bell napkin-wrapped coins for added effect
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if that type of tone would pass the NT test at PCGS?
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it's a wet cool

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  • CuKevinCuKevin Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭
    I am going to need the refrigerator model number, the refrigerant used, and a complete inventory of what you store in your freezer imageimage
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  • RonnyRonny Posts: 94


    << <i>I am going to need the refrigerator model number, the refrigerant used, and a complete inventory of what you store in your freezer imageimage >>



    Very funny! Love that sense of humor, friend!...Cheers, RonO
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm fascinated by what might be some of the physics and chemistry behind this phenomenon. Could it be some release of gas due to micro-fluctuations in the temperature.

    Did the fabricators of the toilet seat calculate the rate of decomposition?

    I think it's abundantly clear that these coins are not AT. They fall under the "unintentionally" exception.

    The Sniffer Room should have a sample so they know these are kosher . . . . image
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The deep Freezer Burnt Orange looks nice image
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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭✭
    Somewhere the coin doc who invented this technique 20 years ago is ticked off that you spilled the beans. ;-)
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  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭

    I've heard of cold cash, but this goes too far. Too far, I tell you.


  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,138 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm fascinated by what might be some of the physics and chemistry behind this phenomenon. Could it be some release of gas due to micro-fluctuations in the temperature.

    Did the fabricators of the toilet seat calculate the rate of decomposition?

    I think it's abundantly clear that these coins are not AT. They fall under the "unintentionally" exception.

    The Sniffer Room should have a sample so they know these are kosher . . . . image >>





    More likely a function of WHAT was in the freezer. Now we have FFT or Frozen Food Toning!
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  • CuKevinCuKevin Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm fascinated by what might be some of the physics and chemistry behind this phenomenon. Could it be some release of gas due to micro-fluctuations in the temperature.

    Did the fabricators of the toilet seat calculate the rate of decomposition?

    I think it's abundantly clear that these coins are not AT. They fall under the "unintentionally" exception.

    The Sniffer Room should have a sample so they know these are kosher . . . . image >>





    More likely a function of WHAT was in the freezer. Now we have FFT or Frozen Food Toning! >>



    I am almost certain the refrigerant in the freezer's atmosphere had the greatest influence.
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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hold on, I'm trying this with a Morgan I've got laying around. >>



    Give your wife a heads up lest she throw it away or cook it.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,138 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I'm fascinated by what might be some of the physics and chemistry behind this phenomenon. Could it be some release of gas due to micro-fluctuations in the temperature.

    Did the fabricators of the toilet seat calculate the rate of decomposition?

    I think it's abundantly clear that these coins are not AT. They fall under the "unintentionally" exception.

    The Sniffer Room should have a sample so they know these are kosher . . . . image >>





    More likely a function of WHAT was in the freezer. Now we have FFT or Frozen Food Toning! >>



    I am almost certain the refrigerant in the freezer's atmosphere had the greatest influence. >>



    HUH, the worst that could happen there is a PVC type reaction. There is NOTHING in freons [halocarbons] that will tone a coin.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The frig does remove moisture......and opening the door allows humidity to enter. Oh my! But I'm thinking there's another factor that needs to come in play. 20 to 40 degree temperature swing? Something with the right sulfur, released into the air during the slightly thawing/freezing process, moisture/drying cycles............the toning process.

    Compost with cow manure in a freezer?? image

    Me thinks toned coins will out do itself someday.

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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Hold on, I'm trying this with a Morgan I've got laying around. >>



    Give your wife a heads up lest she throw it away or cook it. >>



    In my youngster days, I once skinned a raccoon. Not really knowing how to keep the maggots off the pelt, I decided to keep it in the deep freezer that we had in the utility room. Didn't take long for mom to find it when I heard her scream. image

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  • CuKevinCuKevin Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I'm fascinated by what might be some of the physics and chemistry behind this phenomenon. Could it be some release of gas due to micro-fluctuations in the temperature.

    Did the fabricators of the toilet seat calculate the rate of decomposition?

    I think it's abundantly clear that these coins are not AT. They fall under the "unintentionally" exception.

    The Sniffer Room should have a sample so they know these are kosher . . . . image >>





    More likely a function of WHAT was in the freezer. Now we have FFT or Frozen Food Toning! >>



    I am almost certain the refrigerant in the freezer's atmosphere had the greatest influence. >>



    HUH, the worst that could happen there is a PVC type reaction. There is NOTHING in freons [halocarbons] that will tone a coin. >>




    Ahhhh yes, my mistake. So it is whatever is being stored in the freezer, not the refrigerant.
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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could it possibly be the Lucite releasing a toning agent due to temp change by being frozen. Just curious.
    Don't know anything about the chemical properties of Lucite, just sayin'.
    I'll bet hundreds of freezer doors are opening today that were not normally opened. lol
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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm considering putting my baggy next to my Lucite. What's its permeability? Would it work better under different bariatric pressures?

    I'm reading the ingredients on a box of Mrs. Paul's Fish Sticks. Does the Food and Drug Administration use a Sniffer? Scary.....
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,138 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I'm fascinated by what might be some of the physics and chemistry behind this phenomenon. Could it be some release of gas due to micro-fluctuations in the temperature.

    Did the fabricators of the toilet seat calculate the rate of decomposition?

    I think it's abundantly clear that these coins are not AT. They fall under the "unintentionally" exception.

    The Sniffer Room should have a sample so they know these are kosher . . . . image >>





    More likely a function of WHAT was in the freezer. Now we have FFT or Frozen Food Toning! >>



    I am almost certain the refrigerant in the freezer's atmosphere had the greatest influence. >>



    HUH, the worst that could happen there is a PVC type reaction. There is NOTHING in freons [halocarbons] that will tone a coin. >>




    Ahhhh yes, my mistake. So it is whatever is being stored in the freezer, not the refrigerant. >>



    A lot of frozen/processed foods contain eggs or egg based ingredients, hence there will usually be some small level of sulfur present.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That brown paper lunch bag in the dorm room fridge is the type of cheap grade paper which is loaded with sulphur products of paper manufacturing. If the NEN crew has been keeping brownbag lunches in there for a long time, the toning coins are no surprise at all.

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  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    It looks like the Lucite come off pretty cleanly.
    I'm surprised by that, I always thought it couldn't be removed that well without harming the coins.
    Did it come off as well as looks in the pic?
    Ed
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A simple boiled egg, split in two, will produce marvelous results...but everybody knew that - didn't they?? imageimage Cheers, RickO
  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭
    Any cruciferous veggies in there? Broccoli, coleslaw, kale?

  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the coins look pretty cool sticking out of the Lucite...reminiscent of precious crystals protruding from the surrounding matrix. It would make a cool display piece imo.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And now we have a new twist in toned coins. image
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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now that we have FT (freezer toning), AFT (artificial freezer toning) can not be far behind.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,138 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Now that we have FT (freezer toning), AFT (artificial freezer toning) can not be far behind. >>



    We don't know if the freezer toned it or something in the freezer toned it.
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  • StorkStork Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there any Walmart ice cream in there? That stuff has so many chemicals it won't even melt when left out in the sun...gotta be some good stuff there.

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