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1915 buffalo nickel newp

buffnutbuffnut Posts: 933
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A recent pick up and a wonderful example. PCGS MS64. I really want to believe that this is a proof. The strike is all there, the die mark on the reverse rim is there, rims are hard to assess all the way around with the holder prongs. I know that proof dies were used for regular circulation strike coins after their proof 'service' was complete- so it is terribly difficult to discern.

I'm willing to accept it as a magnificently struck regular issue too image

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  • deltadimemandeltadimeman Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    i think it's a proof also .
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1915's can come nice but not much nicer than that one.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    what a stunning example
    thanks for sharing it's beauty with us too

    i about give up on trying to tell a MPB from images
    fingers crossed it is one that you cherry picked image
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice Buff... and it could be a proof.... Cheers, RickO
  • buffnutbuffnut Posts: 933
    So here are some additional pics. Pardon the quality, they are the best I can do with my phone and a loupe. Some standard obverse/reverse, a couple of angles of the edge, and a shot of the die mark on the reverse rim. I know that these aren't guaranteed diagnostics of a proof, but they do add to the potential at least.

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    MS64? Seriously, I don't get it.



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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a fantastic pickup whatever it turns out to be, proof or unc
    should go at least a 65, and a beautiful piece, but

    I sent in a group of 8 coins to pcgs a couple of months ago,
    two pieces were cherrypicked proofs, and the other six were
    buffalo nickel crackouts.

    got slaughtered with the grades, so bad that I did not renew
    my collectors club membership at the end of May

    going to try ATS for a while.

    as they say
    somedayas you get the bear,
    and others he gets you!
    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After a second close look I vote proof!
    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MS64? Seriously, I don't get it. >>



    Someone giving it a quick glance and seeing a lack of luster overall could explain such a thing (a 64 grade.) But then, considering the fact that if a proof, it's a matte proof, I could easily see that being the case, upon a new review.

    Good luck either way -- hopefully it's a proof, but, if purchased for a typical MS-64 price, either way you win.
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's worth a crackout and resubmission.
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i>MS64? Seriously, I don't get it. >>



    Me neither. Then again, the bar on this issue is pretty high. So many well-struck, brilliant 1915s out there.
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  • buffnutbuffnut Posts: 933
    Off to PCGS she went, for a second look image I had some other leggers I wanted slabbed too, so I was planning another submission anyways. After cracking it out, I am just as unsure as I was when it was in the plastic. The outside edges are very mirror-like, but the rims aren't quite as squared as I would have liked to have seen. Not really beveled, but not as 'thick' looking as other matte proofs I have encountered. Fingers crossed, we'll see!
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When ya fill out your submission for grading do you label it a proof or a business strike? Just curious as this might make a difference.
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • buffnutbuffnut Posts: 933
    I labeled it as a proof. My understanding is that they will still slab it as a business strike if they don't think it is a proof. I had a similar situation in the past where I had a buff with quite an obscure mintmark. It was really hard to tell if it was a 1927D or an S. I marked it as a D on the submission form, and they graded it as an S. So I think they will still slab it in either case, unless they are given explicit instructions to not do so. Although, I don't know why anyone would do that, as you still have to pay full fees either way image
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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    buffnut, yes they will do exactly as you have said here, from my personal experience
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    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • buffnutbuffnut Posts: 933
    Got my grades back last night and the 1915 came back as PF64 image

    I had an issue with the other three leggers I sent in (two 1917d and one 1927d). They graded them straight without variety attribution, even though I put in the correct 5 digit PCGS numbers and paid for attribution. This is the second time they have done that image Last time a call to customer service fixed the issue before the coins shipped, but still frustrating. At least I got the grade I was looking for on the 1915!
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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Got my grades back last night and the 1915 came back as PF64 image! >>



    "YOU SUCK"

    huge congrats there and right on
    way to go
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    not my coin type but it is a nice coin. fwiw
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image You did great!!!!!
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice job. I see a lot more "you sucks" in the buffalo nickels than about anything else. I don't even know what I'm looking at or how to grade them. You guys have quite the eye.
    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good eye, Travis! Congrats!
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Got my grades back last night and the 1915 came back as PF64 image

    I had an issue with the other three leggers I sent in (two 1917d and one 1927d). They graded them straight without variety attribution, even though I put in the correct 5 digit PCGS numbers and paid for attribution. This is the second time they have done that image Last time a call to customer service fixed the issue before the coins shipped, but still frustrating. At least I got the grade I was looking for on the 1915! >>



    Your proof instincts were correct -- well done! Seems like there's been a rash of coins graded MS with too quick a glance, that are actually matte proofs.
  • deltadimemandeltadimeman Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    you do suck ! congrats
  • OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats, and let me add, "You Suck." Will be interested to hear what happens with the legger.
    Proud recipient of the coveted "You Suck Award" (9/3/10).
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    Pure joy! Way to go.
    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    You did it again Travis! Great job! image

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