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Hey, Bust Quarter collectors....you might find this statement by Wondercoin amusing!

DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
In my thread about an update to to my Dime Variety Set he made a very silly comparison.

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If one is looking for someone on the forum who is extremely fair to all points of views, then Wondercoin is right near the top.

    I recall years back Wondercoin even bought a pop 1 1875-s MS67 seated dime from me.
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  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure bust quarter collectors want to be dragged into this. For the most part, we consider ourselves crazy, and so we don't begrudge other collectors their craziness image

    Perhaps these National Park quarter collectors will become interested in bust quarters as well. Though, they will have to make concessions as to grade...

    I really enjoy Wondercoin posts, and I'm glad there continue to be collectible new issues from the mint.

    Matt (scubafuel)
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the mint weren't pumping out quarters like an ant queen pumping out carpenter ant workers, then I'd never be able to afford to collect rare extinct giant primordial tarantula fossils.

    edit: some of the new ones do have nice shiny mark-free carapace though, along with beautiful sparkling display case and information placard, so you got to give them that image

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes, I think there are a lot more collectors interested in real collector coins coined in small amounts 125 years ago......than modern junk made by the billions yesterday! >>



    You do realize that you do do this quite a bit. Frequently with no provocation and clear
    indication the subject of a thread is a modern coin. I could trash an 1890-s dime very
    easily and the only reason I don't is that I believe all coins are collectible and this even
    applies to coins with a tiny demand like varieties and moderns.

    Coins are compared to each other and not to what we believe is desirable. If you want to
    do modern bashing then don't be surprised to get called on it from time to time. You don't
    see WonderCoin trashing what you like.
    Tempus fugit.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please read the context of my posts today in Dimeman's thread to get the full flavor of my amusing comments...

    like trying to explain to Dimeman that there is a BIG difference between MS65 and MS68 in a classic coin in reply to his comment (applying to both moderns and classics): "there is not that much difference between a 65 and a 68"

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,231 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cladking - evidently you didn't read the thread in order! Wondercoin challenged the need for my post,,,,,which was immediately answered by collectors who do care.

    I merely stated my opinion which I think is the opinion of many who don't care to get into it.
  • To each, his own. Anything in life would be a nightmare if all of us liked and went after the same thing. Variety is the spice of life. In fact, the fewer people that like what I like, the better. I don't consider coin collecting a money making venture or investment. It's just fun. Let's have some.
  • DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I merely stated my opinion which I think is the opinion of many who don't care to get into it. >>



    I think perhaps more folks should follow their lead and not get into it...

    Oh and perhaps the thread title should be changed to: "Hey, I want some help winning an argument on the Internet"
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I merely stated my opinion which I think is the opinion of many who don't care to get into it. >>



    I think perhaps more folks should follow their lead and not get into it...

    Oh and perhaps the thread title should be changed to: "Hey, I want some help winning an argument on the Internet" >>



    LOL, quite so. Speaking of opinions, in my book, that of wondercoin's carries a fair amount of weight. MOO, of course. image
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A non-board member in reading this had this to say to me today (and asked me to post it) ....

    "I am both a dealer in modern and traditionals and have been at for more than 50 years. Now, take an 1840 No Drapery Dime with a mintage of 981,500 and in MS60 it sells for about $400, MS65 $3,150 and $14,500 for an MS67 (pop 2). Now, let's discuss the 2015-S Homestead National Park quarter. The mintage is about 972,000 (same as this 1840 dime). The population of the US in 1840 was about 25,000,000 and now it is about 335,000,000 (about 12x greater). Thus far, there have been -0- Homestead 'S mint" quarters achieving the MS68 grade. If one was made, it would sell for at least $2,000 - $2,500 and would be worth nearly 2/3 the price of the gem 1840 dime, in not 175 years but about a dozen weeks. I have a handful of customers that would buy the MS68 National Park quarter from me in a heartbeat. No one has asked me about an 1840 Dime in MS65 this century (yet)."

    Wondercoin
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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,819 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As for this Internet argument, I shall stay out of it, other than to say it's virtually impossible that hashing it out here will resolve anything or prove anyone correct......

    As for the classic/modern debate, it seems to me that many of the rarities we acknowledge today were unrecognized in their time. Nobody ever imagined the 34-S Peace dollar would be scarce in BU. They saw them commonly in circulation and only after it was too late was the true scarcity understood. Much less than 100 years ago people spent them, fresh from the bank, for $1. Imagine that!!! Other "thought-to-be-rare" issues have become commonplace as collections or hoards have been discovered.

    Some future rarities are sitting in the till of the local Walmart cashier right now.......

    The person who really delves into the modern market and studies it understands something that is not paralleled in the Classic US coin arena.
  • marmacmarmac Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭
    While the threads that triggered this one offered some mild amusement to pass the day, they offer little to this place beyond that. At the end of the day we are all free to collect what we each so desire. Perhaps the boards should be parsed out so the modernists can hang in the modern board and the classic guys in the classics board. Should probably start thinking colors to associate with each group to be worn at shows, and around shops so as to distinguish/associate yourself with the right group.

    Unless it is something I collect it is just plain rubbish image
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is more that unites than divides the two of you.

    Your love of numismatics shines through in your enthusiasm.
    The rest, (classics vs moderns) is pure vanity.

    peacockcoins

  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭


    << <i>While the threads that triggered this one offered some mild amusement to pass the day, they offer little to this place beyond that. At the end of the day we are all free to collect what we each so desire. Perhaps the boards should be parsed out so the modernists can hang in the modern board and the classic guys in the classics board. Should probably start thinking colors to associate with each group to be worn at shows, and around shops so as to distinguish/associate yourself with the right group.

    Unless it is something I collect it is just plain rubbish image >>



    Why that would be racist ! ! !

    HH

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,310 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>....No one has asked me about an 1840 Dime in MS65 this century (yet)." >>



    Give me a holler on a gem 1840 PCGS MS65. I "only" ask that it be very solid for the grade, with natural toning, good eye appeal, well struck, no rub anywhere, no marks of concern, and full mint luster (including the rims). In short, what a true gem MS65 should be.

    image

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  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You guys need to keep this in one thread, I can't keep reading both to see the shenanigans you're keeping up.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "There is more that unites than divides the two of you.
    Your love of numismatics shines through in your enthusiasm.
    The rest, (classics vs moderns) is pure vanity."

    Pat: Thank you for putting it in perspective. And, let me say that I had a very enjoyable (was it not Dimeman?) dinner with Dimeman at the FUN Show a couple years ago. My simple desire is to see lovers of classic coins and lovers of modern coins coexisting here without the need to "bash" the other guys' collecting interests. If we can agree on that, I have nothing more to say on the subject.

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • OperationButterOperationButter Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My simple desire is to see lovers of classic coins and lovers of modern coins coexisting here without the need to "bash" the other guys' collecting interests. >>



    Dimeman loves to bash moderns, sadly, I dont see that stopping. You are fighting an uphill battle. Good luck image
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,642 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wondercoin can have his opinion

    you can have yours

    if I got bent at all the regulars' personal opinions, I'd have to leave.


    anyway, what is a modern thread or a carr thread without dimeman saying "modern crap" or "criminal"? If you weren't in there, I'd start wondering if you fell ill or something.



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  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    > Dimeman loves to bash moderns, sadly, I dont see that stopping. You are fighting an uphill battle. Good luck

    image Well said. image
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    While it's true I don't care for modern coinage.....the main argument here was about moon money for top pops. Modern or classic I can't see paying moon money for a grade where the next grade down is dirt cheap.

    And yes, I had an enjoyable dinner with WC and several others at FUN a couple of years ago.

    We are on opposite sides of this issue and neither of us is going to change our mind.image
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    While it's true I don't care for modern coinage.....the main argument here was about moon money for top pops. Modern or classic I can't see paying moon money for a grade where the next grade down is dirt cheap.

    And yes, I had an enjoyable dinner with WC and several others at FUN a couple of years ago.

    We are on opposite sides of this issue and neither of us is going to change our mind.image
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dime man. Different sides of the issue or not, can we at least agree that the modern bashing should be toned down a notch or two? image. Wondercoin
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  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dimeman loves to bash moderns... >>



    Sums it up nicely.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Dime man. Different sides of the issue or not, can we at least agree that the modern bashing should be toned down a notch or two? image. Wondercoin >>

    "Toned Down"??

    How about just knocking it off completely? Modern Collectors really hate to wade around his disparaging posts which have nothing to do with the subject matter other than to just bash modern coins and modern coin collectors.

    An excellent example is in starting a new thread "criticizing" a moderns collector as if folks are going to rally around him anyway.
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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You kids behave!
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

    At best we are all nuts! Let us not forget this fact.







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  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think you are both homo sapiens and your sisters are avowed thespians. image

    That ought to get the fur flying!
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

    Hay Ma fur's flying.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>>At best we are all nuts! Let us not forget this fact.<<<

    This +1

    To non collectors we are all crazy! image

    Let's drop it and get ready for game 2 tonite.image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,396 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In my thread about an update to to my Dime Variety Set he made a very silly comparison.

    Link >>



    He sounds a little rude but it sounds like he was giving you a dose of your own medicine for some of the past comments you made concerning some of his coins.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>>>>At best we are all nuts! Let us not forget this fact.<<<

    This +1

    To non collectors we are all crazy! image

    Let's drop it and get ready for game 2 tonite.image >>



    I'll bet you the Cav's win game 2 in OT...........Stakes?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,396 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You kids behave! >>



    Yup. Sounds like someone needs a nap.image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>>I'll bet you the Cav's win game 2 in OT...........Stakes?<<<

    WOW....I meant game 3.image
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>>>>I'll bet you the Cav's win game 2 in OT...........Stakes?<<<

    WOW....I meant game 3.image >>



    Couldn't resist the low hanging fruit image

    mark
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    >>>Couldn't resist the low hanging fruit <<<

    Hey, no problem.....I'm used to this from the Sports Forum!image

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