Won this NGC graded AU55 '1819' CBH on eBay last month.

Goldbully

Seller's pics





I agreed with the seller that this CBH was actually an 1819/8 with Small 9.

So what did I do? I cracked her out and sent her to PCGS.

I thought that the AU55 grade could be a bit iffy, but even if she comes back an AU53, the coin will still appreciate a few hundred bucks.

She came back AU53, and I'm not too upset here.

maibockaddict

Both services have a nasti habit of missing this 1819/8 overdates. It seems like the submitter of the coin must emphasize the overdate or the grading service would miss it.

Question is, since you have it in hand, do you think it could make 55? I would say PCGS has been extraordinarily conservative on these and if the coin has nearly full luster in the fields you may have a shot with the regrade service...

lance snagged one of these from Stacks-Bowers recently (ngc 55). The only problem is when you pay full retail for a normal date, you are only getting a marginally good deal on the overdate.

BTW i did "cherry this 1819 o-104 and it was in an ngc 45 holder, came back a 40 but i knew it was really a 45 so i re-submitted and got the 45 second time around...

Goldbully

Question is, since you have it in hand, do you think it could make 55?

I don't have her in hand until Thursday. I appreciate your professional advice, Dave.

Congrats on your 1819 O-104

maibockaddict

<< <i>Question is, since you have it in hand, do you think it could make 55?

I don't have her in hand until Thursday. I appreciate your professional advice, Dave.

Congrats on your 1819 O-104 >>



congrats on yours as well. looks like a rather pretty coin.

lkeigwin

Funny coincidence. The 1819/8 Dave mentions was an NGC AU55 CAC (NGC missed the overdate). It too came back PCGS AU53. But at least I got the variety fixed.

I think it's a 55 and some day I'll have it regraded and maybe re-stickered.

GB, that looks like a nice example! I like the seller's pix better than the TV, though...color and luster.
Lance.

oih82w8

Good looking Bustie!

Goldbully

We seem to have a lot of the same coin experiences.

GB, that looks like a nice example! I like the seller's pix better than the TV, though...color and luster.

I actually am with you on this one....the seller's pics show the luster and color more realistically.

One of my better finds of late.

AnkurJ

I see little to no difference between AU53 and AU55 coins.

Goldbully

<< <i>I see little to no difference between AU53 and AU55 coins. >>



Per PCGS................

AU-53 ....Full detail with friction over 1/2 or more of surface, very slight flatness on high points
AU-53+ .... Full detail with friction on only 1/2 of surface, extremely slight flatness on high points. Positive eye appeal.
AU-55 .....Full detail with friction on less than 1/2 surface, mainly on high points
AU-55+ .... Full detail with slight friction on less than 1/2 of surface, on high points. Eye appeal is good.


By their definitions, there would be some obvious differences.

I'm sure you've had a lot of experiences with these grades, so I respect your position too.

maibockaddict

Would like to add that I recently have had 2 pcgs 50's and one 53 come back as 55's on the regrade service.... Just sayin'

ricko

Nice coin and nice catch..... always fun to find these 'little treasures'....Cheers, RickO

derryb

Needs a sticker.

guitarwes

I gotta admit I was a little confused at first thinking you bought the coin in the holder and found the PCGS TruView of the same coin and that it had upgraded from a P53 to the N55. Then I read the title again and then found the rest of the OP........ That's what I get from jumping around assuming stuff.

Congrats! Nice little find. I do like the seller's pic better. A little less "glamorshot-ish".