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This is on the bay. Why in the world would anyone leave a 55DD in a roll staring them right in the face? What's the deal? Enlighten me please.

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  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,270 ✭✭✭
    Probably won't get that roll, just "one like it". Another scummer trying to make a buck.
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  • It's for that roll:

    End #1: 1955 DDO Wheat (Ch. UNC)
    - Amazing Uncirculated example, one of the rarest most sought after errors!
    End #2: 1955 Wheat (GEM BU RED)

    3K+ great feedback
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the roll is 3K.....it should contain the 55 DDO.
  • The roll is no reserve and at $300 at the moment. The seller has 3k positive feedback.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can you provide a link?
  • auction 161722391468. Do not know how to do link

    Because I do not believe any collector would leave it there, even though these look old, would seller create these rolls knowing that they will get more than they would like this than if pulled from roll and graded?image
  • OperationButterOperationButter Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    im confused as well...
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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why in the world would anyone leave a 55DD in a roll staring them right in the face? >>



    Becaue they think they can make a killing selling it to people who hope to find 49 more in the roll?
  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My concern would be that it was one of the Chinese counterfeits or one that had been lasered to appear to be an authentic 55/55. This auction doesn't seem "right" to me and I wouldn't touch it.
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As the guy on Laugh-In use to say "VERY INTERESTING"!

    My first reaction is "RUN FORREST RUN"!!!
  • jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The whole roll could be dd's,but probably not
  • Anyone have any thoughts about the age of the rolls? I imagine that the "crimp" doesn't really mean anything regarding originality.
    The coin looks very nice and as legit as it gets. I think seller will get what the DD is worth and more because of the unknown 48 other coins. I think what CRO said above is correct.
  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bought a roll of something a few years ago on E-Bay just for giggles. It was about 10X more than it was worth. I couldn't tell you if it's the same seller.

    What I'd like to know is where does the seller get hundreds and hundreds of rolls of anything? Where, how do they wrap them? These can't be old wrappers from back in the day.

    My local coin shop keeps the dreck in coffee cans. Couldn't make up this many rolls if their life depended on it.
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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    Real / counterfeit 1955 date DDO from Text

    Authentic on top, counterfeit on bottom.

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    Another image from the listing below, the first 5 of the date is more square, similar to the counterfeit image, MHO.

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  • Informative link. I'm unsure, but clearly could be fooled, even with coin in hand. I do not see well enough anymore to be able to see details that small even under magnification. A perfect example of why I stopped buying raw coins off Ebay about 10 years ago.
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To get money
    LCoopie = Les
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Boy, I can't see any difference in the 55DDO and the bad one!

    That SCARES me!!!

    Edited to add.......NOBODY in their right mind would leave a real 55 DDO in a roll like that!
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Can you provide a link? >>

    Link

    Perhaps the 55DDO is real but damaged?
    Lance.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    OBW rolls on eBay ALWAYS expose a treasure on the end(s). It could be anything from a gold quarter eagle to a rare cent (or a counterfeit the seller needs to move).

    This is the coin being sold and bidders spot the treasure and the battle of greed kicks in - the sellers vs. the bidders.

    The seller usually wins will a higher profit then selling the end roll coins separately along with the junk cents in the roll.
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,998 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Can you provide a link? >>

    Link

    Perhaps the 55DDO is real but damaged?
    Lance. >>



    And of course the seller does NOT offer refunds for this auction. It smells bad to me . image
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Real / counterfeit 1955 date DDO from Text
    Authentic on top, counterfeit on bottom.
    >>


    tyvm 4 link. wow
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The stinkier the bait, the likelier a big catfish will get it.


  • << <i>Real / counterfeit 1955 date DDO from Text

    Authentic on top, counterfeit on bottom.

    image

    Another image from the listing below, the first 5 of the date is more square, similar to the counterfeit image, MHO.

    image >>



    On the good coin the bottom 1955 appears to be on top of the top 1955.
    The roll coin looks to be the opposite.

    And on the second five the top looks shorter and fatter than both.
    But I'm no where close to being an expert on these
    And they make me dizzy looking at them.

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    32d,32s,34d,35d,36d,37,37d,37s,38,38s,39s.
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Every trap needs bait.... That is the best way to hook some one or thing. But the bait can be rotten. Stay away Just buy one graded if you want one or need one. image


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  • If you look on ebay right now you can find used and unused old school wrappers for sale. It is very easy to make these rolls up using an older coin roller. I have seen this done many times especially with 1909 lincolns where they make it look like a roll of 1909-S VDBs in SanFran wrappers. If you want to throw your money away for no good reason I could sell you a couple hundred "unsearched" wheat cent rolls for $45.00 a piece.

    In fact I am banned by the seller listing the rolls because I called them out on their rolls after buying one to prove a point. It had a red wheat reverse on one end and a red 1909 wheat obverse on the other. All of the other coins in between the 2 end coins were all nasty 40s and up about good coins.
  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    No biggie.

    Buy from the right " Dealer " , I'm sure you could get a bag of those. image

    Maybe even a 55 gal drum full.... if you really wanted a bunch. image




    To some people - those are about as special as a freshly made washer. image
  • Usually on the first 9 you can see where one overlaps the other showing one on top of the other. The fake does not show this and if you enlarge that 55 you will see that it matches up to the fake very well.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks good to me.

    The usual diagnostics for the very convincing struck counterfeits are wide, flat lettering and some graving work between the doubled letters. These look well formed and rounded.

    Other giveaways...sharp, thin rims and letters to close to the edge...can't be seen because of the wrap.

    It would be foolhardy to bid. These supposed bank wrapped rolls are almost always staged. But my guess is the 55DDO is not counterfeit. It's probably damaged.
    Lance.
  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    At $1702, two and a half days to go.

    See what happens. Craziness could happen, ya never know.

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  • Ended at $2425.00. You could get a nice graded 63 for that.
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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is on the bay. Why in the world would anyone leave a 55DD in a roll staring them right in the face? What's the deal? Enlighten me please.

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    It is likely a stock image of a roll that will never go out and will be reused over and over again.
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The wrapper does not look 60 years old to me. So much for OBW.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,138 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This is on the bay. Why in the world would anyone leave a 55DD in a roll staring them right in the face? What's the deal? Enlighten me please.

    image >>




    caveat emptor stupidium
    theknowitalltroll;
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is flypaper which the seller has put down to catch the greedy and poorly informed among us.

    If I want a 1955 doubled die cent, I'll go out and buy one (which I did many years ago). I would not figure on getting it from a roll of "pigs in a poke."
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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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  • GManGMan Posts: 790 ✭✭
    Just get one of these to make your own eBay rolls!

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    GMan

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