Because I do not believe any collector would leave it there, even though these look old, would seller create these rolls knowing that they will get more than they would like this than if pulled from roll and graded?
My concern would be that it was one of the Chinese counterfeits or one that had been lasered to appear to be an authentic 55/55. This auction doesn't seem "right" to me and I wouldn't touch it.
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Anyone have any thoughts about the age of the rolls? I imagine that the "crimp" doesn't really mean anything regarding originality. The coin looks very nice and as legit as it gets. I think seller will get what the DD is worth and more because of the unknown 48 other coins. I think what CRO said above is correct.
I bought a roll of something a few years ago on E-Bay just for giggles. It was about 10X more than it was worth. I couldn't tell you if it's the same seller.
What I'd like to know is where does the seller get hundreds and hundreds of rolls of anything? Where, how do they wrap them? These can't be old wrappers from back in the day.
My local coin shop keeps the dreck in coffee cans. Couldn't make up this many rolls if their life depended on it.
If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
Informative link. I'm unsure, but clearly could be fooled, even with coin in hand. I do not see well enough anymore to be able to see details that small even under magnification. A perfect example of why I stopped buying raw coins off Ebay about 10 years ago.
OBW rolls on eBay ALWAYS expose a treasure on the end(s). It could be anything from a gold quarter eagle to a rare cent (or a counterfeit the seller needs to move).
This is the coin being sold and bidders spot the treasure and the battle of greed kicks in - the sellers vs. the bidders.
The seller usually wins will a higher profit then selling the end roll coins separately along with the junk cents in the roll.
Another image from the listing below, the first 5 of the date is more square, similar to the counterfeit image, MHO.
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On the good coin the bottom 1955 appears to be on top of the top 1955. The roll coin looks to be the opposite.
And on the second five the top looks shorter and fatter than both. But I'm no where close to being an expert on these And they make me dizzy looking at them.
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If you look on ebay right now you can find used and unused old school wrappers for sale. It is very easy to make these rolls up using an older coin roller. I have seen this done many times especially with 1909 lincolns where they make it look like a roll of 1909-S VDBs in SanFran wrappers. If you want to throw your money away for no good reason I could sell you a couple hundred "unsearched" wheat cent rolls for $45.00 a piece.
In fact I am banned by the seller listing the rolls because I called them out on their rolls after buying one to prove a point. It had a red wheat reverse on one end and a red 1909 wheat obverse on the other. All of the other coins in between the 2 end coins were all nasty 40s and up about good coins.
Usually on the first 9 you can see where one overlaps the other showing one on top of the other. The fake does not show this and if you enlarge that 55 you will see that it matches up to the fake very well.
The usual diagnostics for the very convincing struck counterfeits are wide, flat lettering and some graving work between the doubled letters. These look well formed and rounded.
Other giveaways...sharp, thin rims and letters to close to the edge...can't be seen because of the wrap.
It would be foolhardy to bid. These supposed bank wrapped rolls are almost always staged. But my guess is the 55DDO is not counterfeit. It's probably damaged. Lance.
This is flypaper which the seller has put down to catch the greedy and poorly informed among us.
If I want a 1955 doubled die cent, I'll go out and buy one (which I did many years ago). I would not figure on getting it from a roll of "pigs in a poke."
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End #1: 1955 DDO Wheat (Ch. UNC)
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End #2: 1955 Wheat (GEM BU RED)
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Because I do not believe any collector would leave it there, even though these look old, would seller create these rolls knowing that they will get more than they would like this than if pulled from roll and graded?
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<< <i>Why in the world would anyone leave a 55DD in a roll staring them right in the face? >>
Becaue they think they can make a killing selling it to people who hope to find 49 more in the roll?
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My first reaction is "RUN FORREST RUN"!!!
The coin looks very nice and as legit as it gets. I think seller will get what the DD is worth and more because of the unknown 48 other coins. I think what CRO said above is correct.
What I'd like to know is where does the seller get hundreds and hundreds of rolls of anything? Where, how do they wrap them? These can't be old wrappers from back in the day.
My local coin shop keeps the dreck in coffee cans. Couldn't make up this many rolls if their life depended on it.
Authentic on top, counterfeit on bottom.
Another image from the listing below, the first 5 of the date is more square, similar to the counterfeit image, MHO.
That SCARES me!!!
Edited to add.......NOBODY in their right mind would leave a real 55 DDO in a roll like that!
<< <i>Can you provide a link? >>
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Perhaps the 55DDO is real but damaged?
Lance.
This is the coin being sold and bidders spot the treasure and the battle of greed kicks in - the sellers vs. the bidders.
The seller usually wins will a higher profit then selling the end roll coins separately along with the junk cents in the roll.
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<< <i>Can you provide a link? >>
Link
Perhaps the 55DDO is real but damaged?
Lance. >>
And of course the seller does NOT offer refunds for this auction. It smells bad to me .
<< <i>Real / counterfeit 1955 date DDO from Text
Authentic on top, counterfeit on bottom.
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tyvm 4 link. wow
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<< <i>Real / counterfeit 1955 date DDO from Text
Authentic on top, counterfeit on bottom.
Another image from the listing below, the first 5 of the date is more square, similar to the counterfeit image, MHO.
On the good coin the bottom 1955 appears to be on top of the top 1955.
The roll coin looks to be the opposite.
And on the second five the top looks shorter and fatter than both.
But I'm no where close to being an expert on these
And they make me dizzy looking at them.
32d,32s,34d,35d,36d,37,37d,37s,38,38s,39s.
Hoard the keys.
In fact I am banned by the seller listing the rolls because I called them out on their rolls after buying one to prove a point. It had a red wheat reverse on one end and a red 1909 wheat obverse on the other. All of the other coins in between the 2 end coins were all nasty 40s and up about good coins.
Buy from the right " Dealer " , I'm sure you could get a bag of those.
Maybe even a 55 gal drum full.... if you really wanted a bunch.
To some people - those are about as special as a freshly made washer.
The usual diagnostics for the very convincing struck counterfeits are wide, flat lettering and some graving work between the doubled letters. These look well formed and rounded.
Other giveaways...sharp, thin rims and letters to close to the edge...can't be seen because of the wrap.
It would be foolhardy to bid. These supposed bank wrapped rolls are almost always staged. But my guess is the 55DDO is not counterfeit. It's probably damaged.
Lance.
See what happens. Craziness could happen, ya never know.
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<< <i>This is on the bay. Why in the world would anyone leave a 55DD in a roll staring them right in the face? What's the deal? Enlighten me please.
It is likely a stock image of a roll that will never go out and will be reused over and over again.
<< <i>This is on the bay. Why in the world would anyone leave a 55DD in a roll staring them right in the face? What's the deal? Enlighten me please.
caveat emptor stupidium
If I want a 1955 doubled die cent, I'll go out and buy one (which I did many years ago). I would not figure on getting it from a roll of "pigs in a poke."
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