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  • stashstash Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"I see know reason for him to lie to me, he's not selling them either"

    it's not about lying...he's naive about 1964 sms coins and probably fully believes he has um
    but he doesn't

    question is...is he stubborn or open-minded enough to research his stated claim >>

    I think thats what he's doing now
  • The 1964 proof sets minted at Philly came in 90% silver(the final year)packaged in clear cello.(no red or blue stripe)

    The 1965,66,67 special mint sets were minted at San Francisco cameIn a 40% silver clad Packaged in clear cello(no red or blue stripe)

    In 65,66,67 there were no mint marks on any coin.

    To look at any coin minted at Philly they technically have no mint mark or are plain.

    I'm saying they don't exist,just highly unlikely.If they do they were struck with intention and not in error.
    Mark Anderson
  • I buy/collect the 1965 sms coins and keep them in there original cello because they are already tough date,in 40% silver,minted at San Francisco with no mint mark,the 65 sms compared to b.u.'s are low mintage.Of the three sms years the 65 is the only year packaged in cello.The date and cello identify these coins.
    Mark Anderson
  • stashstash Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I buy/collect the 1965 sms coins and keep them in there original cello because they are already tough date,in 40% silver,minted at San Francisco with no mint mark,the 65 sms compared to b.u.'s are low mintage.Of the three sms years the 65 is the only year packaged in cello.The date and cello identify these coins. >>

    What's the chances of some minted in Denver ( SMS )
  • I never claimed that the 1964 mint set were sms coins. As best I remember I bought the mint set from the US Mint in 1964. They were an un-circulated set. I never had them re-set in an after market package. Also, I am not naive or stubborn and I don't like your arrogant attitude. My first and last post on this site.
  • Why the thread?

    Facts are not arrogance.

    As far as Denver who knows.All that is commonly known is proof sets were minted up until 1964 at Philly and the 1965,66,67 sms sets were minted at SanFran .Outside of these facts who knows.


    Dose you dime have a "D" mint mark?
    Mark Anderson
  • stashstash Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why the thread?

    Facts are not arrogance.

    As far as Denver who knows.All that is commonly known is proof sets were minted up until 1964 at Philly and the 1965,66,67 sms sets were minted at SanFran .Outside of these facts who knows.


    Dose you dime have a "D" mint mark? >>

    Not the one in the post ..
  • stashstash Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I never claimed that the 1964 mint set were sms coins. As best I remember I bought the mint set from the US Mint in 1964. They were an un-circulated set. I never had them re-set in an after market package. Also, I am not naive or stubborn and I don't like your arrogant attitude. My first and last post on this site. >>

    Don't let lasvegasteddy comments get to you, and thanks for showing up .....
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>My understanding is that the 1964 SMS pieces were all in complete sets. It is extremely unlikely that an individual
    coin would show up and qualify as an SMS. >>

    Thats not true, some were found when the director ( she ) of the mint died in 1995 ... >>

    Huh?

    The "director's" estate had complete sets which were purchases by7 Lester Merkin and later sold at auction. Not individual pieces from what I understand. However, this has not been validated.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • stashstash Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    I'll be bringing back the coin to the coin show on may 28, 2015 ..
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The 1964 SMS dimes I've handled have a matte appearance. Well struck, but not like a proof. Lots and lots of die polish.

    They are unmistakeable in hand. >>



    Yes. The matte appearance is typical.

    It might not be impossible enough coins were struck by one die to wear it off.

    My guess is the pictured coin was inadvertly struck by newer dies under higher than normal pressure
    or maybe it was a combination of factors like a hot planchet or even struck twice. This would suggest
    it was mere coincidence the dies was a little different than most.

    Odd balls like this one abound since 1964 and even older coins can be found fully PL.
    Tempus fugit.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>hey coinstudy
    please enlighten us here if you have any information pertinent to the 1964 SMS coins
    my understanding is not much is known about these...AT ALL

    there is only known fact to when and where these were discovered and who had them....the scope of information stops there
    i struggle with your grouping of these with the 1965 to 1967 coins

    by all rights these never should of been called "SMS" as they shouldn't be grouped in with 1965 to 1967
    these are more like patterns...a limited run of trial pieces that weren't intended for release

    "don't wing it here"...no one knows but if you have verified facts about 1964 SMS coins
    please enlighten us

    a lil tidbit i'll toss in here
    russ stated he's seem these labeled as satin by anacs

    so if anyone sees an anacs 1964 satin labeled coin....this is what you're looking at...a 1964 sms

    a coin no one knows much about at all
    never officially released or offered for public purchase >>



    Remember the Smithsonian was found in possession of numerous modern SMS-Like moderns.

    The mint made lots of very odd coins especially between about 1964 and 1973.
    Tempus fugit.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Remember the Smithsonian was found in possession of numerous modern SMS-Like moderns. >>



    I've seen only pictures of the Smithsonian coins but the dime looks a little more like them than the '64 SMS.
    Tempus fugit.
  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    What is this?

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    Chat Board Lingo

    "Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What is this?

    image[/URL] >>

    1964 coins placed in either a 1966 or 1967 SMS Plastic Holder. Neither 1966 nor 1967 SMS Sets were actually sealed and opening them is a "snap".

    To illustrate, I've put proof coins into a 1967 SMS Holder.

    image

    I didn't have any really good looking 1964 coins available so I opted for proofs.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭
    Folks should reread the article, "Hidden in Plain Sight", in the August 2013 edition of Coin World, which describes the discovery of modern coins which had special finishes in the Smithsonian NNC. Evidently, these were prepared under the direction of Eva Adams, US Mint Director.

    image

    The same Mint Director whose estate contained the supposed 1964 SMS Sets.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • stashstash Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Folks should reread the article, "Hidden in Plain Sight", in the August 2013 edition of Coin World, which describes the discovery of modern coins which had special finishes in the Smithsonian NNC. Evidently, these were prepared under the direction of Eva Adams, US Mint Director.

    image

    The same Mint Director whose estate contained the supposed 1964 SMS Sets. >>

    Any ideal on what other coins have the special finish, cause I think I have some of them ...
  • stashstash Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭
    There is a story behind the coins I have, but for now I'm keeping quite . They never been showed to anybody, ever ....
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There is a story behind the coins I have, but for now I'm keeping quite . They never been showed to anybody, ever .... >>



    It wouldn't be surprising if you're right.

    I would be surprised if the dime was minted with the SMS coins.
    Tempus fugit.
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There is a story behind the coins I have, but for now I'm keeping quite . They never been showed to anybody, ever .... >>



    Good luck.
    Tempus fugit.
  • stashstash Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>There is a story behind the coins I have, but for now I'm keeping quite . They never been showed to anybody, ever .... >>



    Good luck. >>

    This one is a little different then the 64, not as satiny but still an amazing coin [URL=http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/stash38/media/A007 - 20121021_172833 3_zpsniyaglin.jpg.html]image[/URL]
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Folks should reread the article, "Hidden in Plain Sight", in the August 2013 edition of Coin World, which describes the discovery of modern coins which had special finishes in the Smithsonian NNC. Evidently, these were prepared under the direction of Eva Adams, US Mint Director.

    image

    The same Mint Director whose estate contained the supposed 1964 SMS Sets. >>

    Any ideal on what other coins have the special finish, cause I think I have some of them ... >>

    Well, all I can say is "IF" the Smithsonian decided to sell their collection (which they can't) then I suppose its possible you might have some of them. But, I seriously doubt it.

    Go to my photobucket library and read the entire story which has a complete listing of everyth9ng which was found including the grades assigned to the coins by NGC. Right Click to download if the display is too small.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!

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