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coffeycecoffeyce Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
You know I happy joined the forum years back with a zeast for learning about coins and opinions of others but in the last few months {world and US} I've seen more personal attacks and fights {outside harsh comments} and not to me. I'm just curious what's causing adults to act like this I really don't understand why grown men and women would say things that to each other for little to no reason. I've always found the forums to be beneficial to help me learn about my coins and the likes and digs of others. Maybe someone else can fill in the blanks??
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    JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Human nature? I haven't observed it.
    I love them Barber Halves.....
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    JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    It may just be the way you look at life.

    I approach life with the basic understanding that people suck. That way I am not disappointed when I find out that most of the people I meet suck, and get a pleasant surprise when 10% of them don't suck.
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    coffeycecoffeyce Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    Jcm I just spit coke on my monitor thanks for making my day++++
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    TomthecoinguyTomthecoinguy Posts: 851 ✭✭✭✭
    One theory is there could be some "posting under the influence" going on.
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    ernie11ernie11 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You know I happy joined the forum years back with a zeast for learning about coins and opinions of others but in the last few months {world and US} I've seen more personal attacks and fights {outside harsh comments} and not to me. I'm just curious what's causing adults to act like this I really don't understand why grown men and women would say things that to each other for little to no reason. I've always found the forums to be beneficial to help me learn about my coins and the likes and digs of others. Maybe someone else can fill in the blanks?? >>



    Despite all that you say here, I have seen worse forums than this one - go to any Sports forum, especially baseball. An argument over who deserves to be in the Baseball Hall of Fame can become a pitched battle.
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    There's no arguing on the pictures only thread.

    Successful BST deals with mustangt and jesbroken. Now EVERYTHING is for sale.

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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think 3 things are a factor.

    1. On the internet people are emboldened because you can say what you want without fear of being punched in the nose.
    2. Politics, or more specifically a leadership failure (both major parties) make everyone frustrated, that boils over into our daily activities.
    3. Posting things off topic. This just invites more off topic comments.
    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,422 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As in life this place has a bunch of children disguised as adults. Add alcohol, jealousy and disfunction and this place is a direct reflection of Society. Proceed with caution and take all postings with a grain of salt. So is life. image
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,032 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with JCMH but am prepared to go a little farther out on a limb and say that 33% of Mankind doesn't suck.

    (I was even gonna say a 51% majority, but let's not push it. That would be a jinx.) image

    Got an overly generous tip from one of my hotel guests last night that was 4x what he should have offered for the simple errand I ran. I even said it was unnecessary but he insisted.

    Then on my way home, some young dude in a hopped up sedan with those oversized ghetto rims cut me off in traffic and almost caused an accident.

    I guess it all balances out on some cosmic scale somewhere.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>One theory is there could be some "posting under the influence" going on. >>



    Yes, kind of like "drinking and dialing."
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    ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,437 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think some people have nothing better to do then hide behind a aviator and try to stir to pot for a reaction.

    I doubt many of those who act childish would nerve to do so in person at a coin show
    Jon Lerner - Scarsdale Coin - www.CoinHelp.com
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    C0INB0YC0INB0Y Posts: 627 ✭✭


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    << <i>One theory is there could be some "posting under the influence" going on. >>



    Yes, kind of like "drinking and dialing." >>



    Don't Forget, high Sugar levels! People not taking their shots !
    I was ‘COINB0Y' with 4812 posts and ‘Expert Collector’ ranking (Joined in 2006).
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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,823 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I doubt many of those who act childish would nerve to do so in person at a coin show >>




    Hi Jon, I think you said you are setting up at the Bay State show this weekend, I'll drop by your table and put this theory to the test. imageimage


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    who are the moderators?

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's an observation.

    The forum was a lot happier place in 2006 or so when virtually all coins were increasing rapidly in value.

    Most coins are holding steady or losing value right now, with gold dropping.


    Call it seasonal mood disorder?
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    mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭
    The forum has changed in the last decade at the same pace our society has changed.

    10 years ago Social Media was something for young people and artists, MySpace was the reigning king, and 95% of society was deathly afraid (and privacy was key).

    Today we have Facebook, Twitter, and a myriad of ways for our increasingly narcissistic society to elevate their perceived self-importance, like medicine for a sick person.

    I'm in the Social Media software business and built a technology platform that tracks people's behavior using Social Data, so I've been seeing this trend for quite some time now.

    It is what it is, by the way, that saying is a byproduct of the last 10 years, 10 years ago this saying didn't exist...that's my point.

    Society has changed! Sorry, the forum just now mimics what's going on in the world....
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    silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    opinions differ on many things here on the forum nothing unusual and many say what is on their minds

    just part of the real world

    1997-present

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There will almost always be dissenting opinions on any given topic - be it coins, art or politics. However, it is the form dissent takes that can be problematic. As noted above, some verbiage may be alcohol fueled, others are just nasty by nature. This forum has a bit of each. It is, however, not as bad as many other forums - that is not an excuse, just fact. I try to keep my comments - negative or positive - in a reasonable form since, to me, it is the coin (or issue) that is the object of discussion, not the personality. Cheers, RickO
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    lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's an online skill to learn

    Ignore people who bother you and move along
    LCoopie = Les
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    GritsManGritsMan Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭
    Forums, People, Politics, and Coins all suck! Now gimme a beer!

    But seriously, I like the comment about 2006. More of a bull market then, and also more interesting for Moderns collectors than things are now. When there's not as much interesting to talk about, maybe conversations tend to degrade.

    Anyway, I still enjoy checking in here.
    Winner of the Coveted Devil Award June 8th, 2010
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coffee's brewing and I got outbid. Time to take the dog out and find that last coin for the set.
    Cyber bulling only works if you react to what they say.
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    GotTheBugGotTheBug Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 4, 2019 1:19PM
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,476 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There's no arguing on the pictures only thread. >>



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    DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭


    << <i>Here's an observation.

    The forum was a lot happier place in 2006 or so when virtually all coins were increasing rapidly in value.

    Most coins are holding steady or losing value right now, with gold dropping.


    Call it seasonal mood disorder? >>


    Pretty much what I was thinking. Also, many collectors have sold and/or moved on. The Registry Forum belongs to the crickets now. It used to be a hopping place. The US Forum appears to be visited more by dealers/investors and not as many collectors, as there used to. A multitude of social media sites has also attracted some.

    Something needs to spark hobby interest to attract new collectors. That will bring more to the Forums.

    Until then, fewer forum participants leads to a little boredom. Which leads to off topic posts.
    Dan
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Despite all that you say here, I have seen worse forums than this one - go to any Sports forum, especially baseball. An argument over who deserves to be in the Baseball Hall of Fame can become a pitched battle. >>



    you knocked that pun out of the ballpark
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    3Legs3Legs Posts: 103 ✭✭
    This was a nicer place back in early 2000's when there was an open forum. People could let down their down hair a bit there until a "well respected" 800 lb gorilla decided she didn't think there should be an open forum.
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that the forum was far more vibrant about ten years ago. More fun, more disputes, more interesting personalities, and more coins. There were some classic dust-ups. Remember the Mirabela-Poe58 thread? Dizzy's "Anaconda, you've done it again?" "Done Deal?" The MOC coin doctoring outing? These are but a few, but they kept us all engaged, often for the wrong reasons, but you could not resist coming here. Some people have left--left the hobby or just the forum, some lurk but no longer post, some have been booted, and some passed away. People like Anaconda, Dorkkarl, Legend, Longacre, Bear, etc. are no longer participants.

    Moderation is certainly a double-edged sword and has had a dampening effect on the forum, including the closing of the Open Forum. The US Mint release fiascos while, in the long run, only a blip on the radar, energized the collecting base. The US Mint has found a way to monetize the most from its offerings while keeping the flippers at bay.

    The forum, like the hobby more generally, could use a shot in the arm.
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    most of the conflict wouldn't take place in the real world without the appearance of some fat-lipped, black-eyed collectors.
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    bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think 3 things are a factor.

    1. On the internet people are emboldened because you can say what you want without fear of being punched in the nose.
    2. See #1
    3. See #1 >>



    Fixed it for ya.image
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    RaufusRaufus Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Jcm I just spit coke on my monitor thanks for making my day++++ >>



    +1
    Land of the Free because of the Brave!
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    DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭✭
    This reminds me of a little kid coming home from school and telling his mom the he is disappointed that there are mean kids at school. It's life.
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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keets said......

    << <i>most of the conflict wouldn't take place in the real world without the appearance of some fat-lipped, black-eyed collectors. >>



    Oh, we got tough guys on the Internet posing as dealers.image Yes, your post has a dealer slant to it, you work for a dealer, you are a dealer IMO (not that there is anything wrong with that). Just accept it.image
    And your tone is you hate collectors....... NOW.
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>This reminds me of a little kid coming home from school and telling his mom the he is disappointed that there are mean kids at school. It's life. >>


    No. It's school. Adults should act better.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,673 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here's an online skill to learn

    Ignore people who bother you and move along >>

    sound advice coopie.
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "try to stir to pot for a reaction"

    You must mean "try to turn to pot for a reaction." Does your phrase not make more sense this way?

    If a picture wasn't going very well I'd put a puppy dog in it, always a mongrel, you know, never one of the full bred puppies. And then I'd put a bandage on its foot... I liked it when I did it, but now I'm sick of it.
    Norman Rockwell

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,547 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You know I happy joined the forum years back with a zeast for learning about coins and opinions of others but in the last few months {world and US} I've seen more personal attacks and fights {outside harsh comments} and not to me. I'm just curious what's causing adults to act like this I really don't understand why grown men and women would say things that to each other for little to no reason. I've always found the forums to be beneficial to help me learn about my coins and the likes and digs of others. Maybe someone else can fill in the blanks?? >>



    I think we are fairly civil here compared to other forums and to life in general. Could you link a few examples of what you are talking about? Maybe I'm not reading the same threads that you are.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,823 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think that the forum was far more vibrant about ten years ago. More fun, more disputes, more interesting personalities, and more coins. There were some classic dust-ups. Remember the Mirabela-Poe58 thread? Dizzy's "Anaconda, you've done it again?" "Done Deal?" The MOC coin doctoring outing? These are but a few, but they kept us all engaged, often for the wrong reasons, but you could not resist coming here. >>




    The two that sucked me in were Neptune and her Speared Buffalo auctions, and a certain vest pocket dealer in toned material who would post in every thread about coin doctoring that the best way to out them was to post their recipes for creating AT. image


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
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    pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It may just be the way you look at life.

    I approach life with the basic understanding that people suck. That way I am not disappointed when I find out that most of the people I meet suck, and get a pleasant surprise when 10% of them don't suck. >>



    +1, that is how I look at things.
    Mark
    NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

    RIP "BEAR"
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the reason why...............






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    DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Certainly the Forum has changed over the time I have been here. Even I have drifted in and out of posting and reading, and others do too. An always changing dynamic -- many experts in different series drift in and out and we can capture their wisdom for a time, then their lives change and they become perhaps distant while others crop up and we get to hear other bits of knowledge. Rather than worry about it, I try to tap into the knowledge base here, learn and interact (in the background -- I don't need to get my jollies from hammering the daylights out of my keyboard on the Forum), and watch as specialists and some routine posters help us pick up a bit more 'boots on the ground' numismatics.

    I realize I am drifting from the OP -- so, I would just say, "Sure, there are some posters here that remind me of every type of kid I have in my sophomore English classes!" I can assign a soph English name to each type of guy/gal here. Some contribute, some really are valuable, some need attention for good OR bad effort, and some just exist to detract from the progress of others. I try to spend time with all, but enjoy the time with my best students a bit more. They learn, and they also teach me a bit as well.

    That is my analogy for the day . . .

    Drunner
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    sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That is my analogy for the day . . . >>


    Happens to be the POTD too. image

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

    My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress

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    pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Forum is still one of the best places to learn and keep up on what's going on in the coin world. If you're watching TV and don't like what's on turn the channel or turn it off.
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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you're watching TV and don't like what's on turn the channel or turn it off. >>



    The thing is, the TV doesn't let me complain about it, like the Forum does image
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll mind the pennies. The dollars will mind themselves.

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    bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If you're watching TV and don't like what's on turn the channel or turn it off. >>



    The thing is, the TV doesn't let me complain about it, like the Forum does image >>



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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    It is also the reason why so many have left the forums or rarely post.
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
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    winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    I'm here to have fun and fun is letting folks know what you think to some point and that is what I do. If someone doesn't like my thoughts, OH WELL I can't help them. Not upset at anyone just having fun. image
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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    There's just not enough posts about police chases, mystery shoppers and political emails.
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    luckybucksluckybucks Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭
    People will always disagree, and have debates from time to time.

    I too have seen some pretty good powder kegs lately, and often times over something trivial. I am sometimes tempted to offer resolution, but know that sometime the old saying "the less said the better" is the best solution.
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    BunkerBunker Posts: 3,926


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    << <i>Jcm I just spit coke on my monitor thanks for making my day++++ >>



    +1 >>



    +2 (only it was Mtn Dew)
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