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coffeycecoffeyce Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
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Heres a 1878-CC I purchased from the BST. anyone care to guess what grade im hoping atleast MS62

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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    63
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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭
    Any chance it's cleaned? Just askin
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭✭
    Either 58 or 62. I'm leaning more towards AU.
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  • pufferpuffer Posts: 535
    Good luck; these coins have gone up quite a bit in the last couple years and GS is high.
  • KyleKyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I want to say 55/58
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU58
    When in doubt, don't.
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That baby looks like a circulated proof. Look how squared the entire reverse it.

    I'll go AU details.
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU details from those photos.
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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A little tough to tell from the photo, but looks high end AU to me. Cant tell if it's messed with or not.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU58.....Cheers, RickO
  • pufferpuffer Posts: 535
    You'll never know unless you submit it. As the PCGS ad went, the raw coin is "wishful thinking" while the certified is more or less a "sure thing".
  • coffeycecoffeyce Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    I don't believe it has been cleaned I bought it from a forum member and I think they would have disclosed it if so. He said it should be 62 and 64 if a good day.

    Im sending it in for grading tomorrow so ill cross my fingers. thanks for the opinions its actually my first CC.

    chris
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It picked up that dirt/residue somewhere so I am hoping for MS but thinking otherwise.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,166 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Any chance it's cleaned? Just askin >>

    thats what it looks like to me. id say xf/au grade and its all just an opinion. jmo
  • csdotcsdot Posts: 706 ✭✭✭✭
    Is that tarnish or dirt? If tarnish (toning), it sure appears that someone worked to get much of it off of the fields and rest of the coin, leaving only what remains in the crevices. It looks messed with, and whatever the grade, the price could reflect the unusual appearance.

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  • coffeycecoffeyce Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    Just got the grade back no pictures yet. im satisfied with grade could have been worse

    80060919 7080 1878-CC $1 USA MS61
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats!
    When in doubt, don't.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coffeyce, Congrats on getting the MS grade. I was thinking MS-61 to 62 based on the images provided, with MS-63 upside potential.

    PCGS may have deducted 1/2 point based on the toning pattern, dropping it from MS-62 to MS-61. -- As we all know toning can be a dual-edged grading sword.

    Stuart

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  • coffeycecoffeyce Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    heres the photo they uploaded now

    http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/80060919.html
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on the original photo in the first post, I would have guessed cleaned AU-58. Based on the PCGS photo, I think they were a bit conservative with MS-61. I like it as a 62 or better. Nice coin.
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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on the grade.
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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That baby looks like a circulated proof. Look how squared the entire reverse it.

    I'll go AU details. >>



    is the "mesa effect" present?
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Congratulations.... certainly looks better in the PCGS picture... Cheers, RickO
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Courtesy PCGS Image Post of the OP's coin...

    image

    Stuart

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