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1 or 2???

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    rkprkp Posts: 434 ✭✭✭
    1.5 rounding to 2
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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    FR2

    Too much "meat" for PO1
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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭


    << <i>FR2

    Too much "meat" for PO1 >>


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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could go either way, and I would not disagree if I saw it in a Poor-01 holder.
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,218 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1.5 rounding to 2 >>

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    Nice "smoothie".

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    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭
    Poor + with a gold CAC

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    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭
    double post


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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭✭
    FWIW I have never seen a 2 with the Eagle's eye missing and the shield worn this much. I call it 1.75image
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    DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭
    Personally, for seated material I like to see no stars or words for a solid PO01. I could see this going either way, a "weak" 01 or "strong" 02 (assuming you are going for a 1).
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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Personally, for seated material I like to see no stars or words for a solid PO01. I could see this going either way, a "weak" 01 or "strong" 02 (assuming you are going for a 1). >>



    Don't you mean a strong P01 or a weak FR02? image

    I'm talking about strong vs weak details; It has strong details for P01 but weak details for F02. I understand what you mean by weak P01 and strong FR02, but I think it's interesting to notice how the terms "strong" and "weak" would be used much differently were the coin, say, mint-state.
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FR2+

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would go with 02 on this coin.... Cheers, RickO
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    Don't you mean a strong P01 or a weak FR02?

    I think when you are going for a "low-ball" set, everything works in revearse.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Personally, for seated material I like to see no stars or words for a solid PO01. I could see this going either way, a "weak" 01 or "strong" 02 (assuming you are going for a 1). >>



    Agree. No stars. And preferably no reverse peripheral lettering - or at least unreadable to a non-collector. That's a solid PO1.

    FR02. Would not want to pay the lowball PO1 premium for this coin.
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    claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,405 ✭✭✭✭
    FR 2 for almost sure. Just too much meat left on the bone!


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    3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Don't you mean a strong P01 or a weak FR02?

    I think when you are going for a "low-ball" set, everything works in revearse. >>



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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,526 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ill give it a 2
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Getting a TPG to grade a coin PO01 isn't the easiest thing to do. Here's an example of a Canadian Dollar that graded Fair 2:

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What do you think this one was graded?

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FR2. PO1 is on the edge of gone in my book, and this one is still a couple steps back from that edge.

    I'd have called ajaan's coin PO1, but can see that it's not.
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,125 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>PO1 is on the edge of gone in my book >>


    Yes, but you have to recognize the date. That's the tough part of getting a PO01 coin into a holder.

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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭
    a clear (pun intended) 02
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    AblinkyAblinky Posts: 625 ✭✭✭
    I'm in the 2 camp as well.

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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What do you think this one was graded?

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    That one looks textbook P01. Missing stars, missing legend, but date just visible enough to read.
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    DCWDCW Posts: 6,978 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I say "2."

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,706 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So what does a CAC sticker mean on a FR2? Not close to 1 or not close to 3?
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    3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So what does a CAC sticker mean on a FR2? Not close to 1 or not close to 3? >>



    ...in some cases it means the sticker cost more than the coin itself image

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    pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've seen several PO01's that have a lot less wear than this one. A little more wear on the 8 and it get's a no grade. Still a hard to find date.
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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,125 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I send a coin to a TPG that has a VF obv and an EF reverse, the coin will come back VF. Perhaps the 1878-CC has a PO01 obv and a FR02 reverse so it becomes reverse thinking by the TPG and the coin grades FR02. image

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    DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭
    I'd call this one a pretty solid PO01. Don't know what PCGS said, and often don't care.
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    DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If I send a coin to a TPG that has a VF obv and an EF reverse, the coin will come back VF. Perhaps the 1878-CC has a PO01 obv and a FR02 reverse so it becomes reverse thinking by the TPG and the coin grades FR02. image >>



    Yeah, I'm always amused that it works this way... but it does.

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