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Ancient gold coins found off the coast of Israel.

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
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OT, but so what.

I just read a report on the Daily Mail about a discovery of about 2000 gold coins dating back about 1000 years in the sea off of the coast of Israel.

When the details come out it will be a very interesting story. The article has some photographs of the coins. They look like they were minted yesterday.

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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "The coins are now property of the state with no finder's fee for the divers."

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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow!
    They are gorgeous.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yowza!
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  • bestmrbestmr Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭
    Nice!! One could feel like Scrooge Mcduck.
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  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,039 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I just read a report on the Daily Mail about a discovery of about 2000 gold coins dating back about 1000 years in the sea off of the coast of Israel. >>



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  • winkywinky Posts: 1,671 ✭
    Surely they kept some of them before anybody knew. So beautiful. image
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Holy Chit !!! :-)
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These appear to be from the Byzantine Empire so they are not considered to be ancient coins which is reserved for coins made before the fall of the Roman Empire in 476AD. Neat hoard. I bet they didn't realize that their government would steal them and are now wishing that they kept it secret.image

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They are Islamic, not Byzantine. Have no idea of the vintage.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those are Islamic, not Byzantine. Have no idea of the vintage.
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  • JazzmanJABJazzmanJAB Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice.
  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭
    Finders keepers as far as I'm concerned.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,272 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They are Islamic, not Byzantine. Have no idea of the vintage. >>



    Took another look and you are of course correct.

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    "Members of a diving club in the Roman-era port stumbled across the treasure, weighing nearly 20 pounds, by pure chance while on a dive."

    It just makes you wonder what's yet to be found.


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  • IcollecteverythingIcollecteverything Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭
    Giving the divers nothing makes it more likely that the next discovery will be hidden from the public and maybe even melted.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Giving the divers nothing makes it more likely that the next discovery will be hidden from the public and maybe even melted. >>



    Exactly. The Brits have the right idea with treasure trove. Basically the British Museum gets first dibs on anything that it does not have for the collection, with the rest going to the finder along with compensation for what was kept.
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  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,817 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Giving the divers nothing makes it more likely that the next discovery will be hidden from the public and maybe even melted. >>



    Absolutely!! Such a misguided policy. Absurd!
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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "The coins are now property of the state with no finder's fee for the divers."

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coin World says from very late 900's up to roughly 1030 A.D.
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  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"The coins are now property of the state with no finder's fee for the divers."

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    Isn't it a bit hypocritical for Israel to be claiming ownership of Islamic coins?
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    I lost about 2000 gold coins in a previous life.
    Those must be mine.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    An amazing find... what a thrill. The fact that the government claimed them is a deterrent for treasure hunters - at least as far as reporting finds. I do cache hunting with my metal detector and the first rule of cache hunters is 'Never, ever talk about your finds.'.... Cheers, RickO
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,386 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those coins have been in the water for nearly 1000 years and yet they look almost new. Says something about gold doesn't it!
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  • pufferpuffer Posts: 535
    What is the best guess as to original owners of these gold coins?
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What is the best guess as to original owners of these gold coins? >>



    Probably the local govenrment. Either taxes collected or money to pay the troops.
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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably more treasures of coins in those seas.
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  • JustlookingJustlooking Posts: 2,895 ✭
    Almost enough to give you chills.
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
    to bad they coundnt have kept that quiet. fwiw

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