Does Anyone Know the Value of this D. Carr 1889-CC Morgan Proof From the CC Mint Press #1
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Hoard the keys.
I certainly do not consider it to be one of "my" pieces.
For a brief period in 2004 I had an association with National Collectors Mint in that I would design items for them and they would use my name on the certificates.
I only designed three items for them: 2004 "Freedom Tower Silver Dollar"; 2004 Washington DC concept state quarter; 2004 Puerto Rico concept state quarter.
But they used my name on the certificates for a few other items such as the one shown above, which was produced in 2004 before I had any type of minting operation of my own.
The three items that I did design for them are listed in my catalog:
Items designed by Daniel Carr and minted by others.
I quit doing any work for them once I witnessed the fiasco with the way they marketed the Freedom Tower coins.
Steve
<< <i>I had absolutely nothing to do with the conception, manufacturing, marketing, or selling of that item.
I certainly do not consider it to be one of "my" pieces.
For a brief period in 2004 I had an association with National Collectors Mint in that I would design items for them and they would use my name on the certificates.
I only designed three items for them: 2004 "Freedom Tower Silver Dollar"; 2004 Washington DC concept state quarter; 2004 Puerto Rico concept state quarter.
But they used my name on the certificates for a few other items such as the one shown above, which was produced in 2004 before I had any type of minting operation of my own.
The three items that I did design for them are listed in my catalog:
Items designed by Daniel Carr and minted by others.
I quit doing any work for them once I witnessed the fiasco with the way they marketed the Freedom Tower coins. >>
When I saw this, my immediate reaction was, Oh Boy! I gotta head over to Moonlight mint and get me one of these!
Then I read your reply. Can they really put your name on a piece as "Chief Engraver" even though you had nothing to do with the piece? Isn't that fraud?
The name is LEE!
<< <i>When I saw this, my immediate reaction was, Oh Boy! I gotta head over to Moonlight mint and get me one of these!
Then I read your reply. Can they really put your name on a piece as "Chief Engraver" even though you had nothing to do with the piece? Isn't that fraud? >>
No because for a short time we had an agreement that I would be called their "Chief Engraver".
Sort of like how "Barry M. Goldwater, Jr." is shown as "Director".
If you look at the web page that I linked in my previous post you will see that I had my name taken off of the Freedom Tower certificates shortly after that series started.
<< <i>Dan, Does all your work have DC it on somewhere ?
Steve >>
If I designed the item then generally yes. But there may be a couple that don't have "DC" (I can't think of any right now, though).
I generally don't put a "DC" on things that I didn't design (unless the "DC" is intended to function as sort of a mint mark).
<< <i>Thanks for that information, Daniel! I'm a big fan of the Moonlight Mint.
Mine will not be sold then, it will be 'overstruck' later this evening... with the hammer-end of my 6 lb splitting maul as the hammer die and the hardwood block beneath as the anvil die!
(And that will be worth a lot more than 40 cents, in pure pleasure value. It will be "One small strike against a scamming outfit, one giant leap for the fun-center of my brain!) >>
You are certainly welcome to do with it as you please
Although I don't think the item itself is in any way offensive, dangerous, or fraudulent.
The COA facsimile signatures are a bit of a stretch, however.
linky
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<< <i>Thanks for that information, Daniel! I'm a big fan of the Moonlight Mint.
Mine will not be sold then, it will be 'overstruck' later this evening... with the hammer-end of my 6 lb splitting maul as the hammer die and the hardwood block beneath as the anvil die!
(And that will be worth a lot more than 40 cents, in pure pleasure value. It will be "One small strike against a scamming outfit, one giant leap for the fun-center of my brain!) >>
You are certainly welcome to do with it as you please
Although I don't think the item itself is in any way offensive, dangerous, or fraudulent.
The COA facsimile signatures are a bit of a stretch, however. >>
I noted APMEX showed an image of the non-silver variety, yet they're selling them as .999
The "National Collector's Mint" only issued 500 in .999 silver, and judging from the serial #'s they made tens of thousands in base metal, plated with silver.
I'm wondering how they advertised them, ("craftily" in order to confuse?) and, did APMEX accidentally get hold of a bunch of the non-silver issues, and sell them unknowingly as silver? Seems odd they'd go to the trouble of selling them if there are only 500 in existence, and their pic does show a non-silver example, ("Out of stock" though, is indicated.)
The mystery deepens.
OP's is worth melt, at least, mine... not even close. (40 microns of pure silver!) >>
I never really looked at those before and I was not aware that some (most) were silver plated. Most of the Freedom Tower "Silver Dollars" were plated, but some were solid 999. I didn't like how the silver-plated Freedom Tower pieces were advertised (neither did Elliot Spitzer).
Hoard the keys.
hit with a 9mm round.
Bet the seller was a bit upset!
I did clear it with ebay before I sent, as I said I would deface it and I did for sure.
Here's a fake gold piece I had the pleasure of putting a two pound hammer with a cold chisel to.
bob
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<< <i>Dan, Does all your work have DC it on somewhere ?
Steve >>
If I designed the item then generally yes. But there may be a couple that don't have "DC" (I can't think of any right now, though).
I generally don't put a "DC" on things that I didn't design (unless the "DC" is intended to function as sort of a mint mark). >>
Here's one without the DC.
Wayne