1896-O Morgan Dollar Pulled From Junk Silver - Grade It. GRADE POSTED

BustHalfBrian · February 13, 2015 2:50AM

Someone forgot to flip the coin over, I guess.

What do you grade it?

GMan · February 13, 2015 2:54AM

Looks 62 or 63. Awesome find if it does go MS. Congrats!

Unknown · February 13, 2015 3:10AM

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Weiss · February 13, 2015 3:23AM

There's an NGC 55 on eBay right now that can't touch it. So I'm at least 58.

SilverBlind · February 13, 2015 3:24AM

<< That's a tough one, I see some of those light hairlines that indicate AU58, but no other rub.

AU58+ or MS62.

Nice catch. >>

That is pretty much what I was thinking, except I thought either a 58 or 63.

Mainebill · February 13, 2015 3:30AM

I'd call it ms 62. Nice score

segoja · February 13, 2015 3:32AM

AU for sure....hard to tell how the light lines on the front look, but from the pics 58

LogPotato · February 13, 2015 3:39AM

Put me in the 58 camp. Nice score.

What else was in there?

CalGold · February 13, 2015 3:40AM

AU58

BryceM · February 13, 2015 3:51AM

AU58, but a nice one. There's just a little luster loss and greying in the fields.

GoldCoin98 · February 13, 2015 3:51AM

Wow that is really close

HighRelief · February 13, 2015 4:06AM

MS60

lkrarecoins · February 13, 2015 4:11AM

AU58 is my guess ;-)

asheland · February 13, 2015 4:13AM

AU58

AngryTurtle · February 13, 2015 4:15AM

<< AU58, but a nice one. There's just a little luster loss and greying in the fields. >>

And a little rub on the cheek.

johnny9434 · February 13, 2015 4:16AM

au58/ms61

USMarine6 · February 13, 2015 4:24AM

That's certainly one that could go either way. Regardless that's a great find for cheap $

lostincoins · February 13, 2015 5:09AM

How does a Morgan like this end up in a junk box? I want to go look through that box!

Rampage · February 13, 2015 5:14AM

<< How does a Morgan like this end up in a junk box? I want to go look through that box! >>

It happens. I've scored many times looking through junk boxes. I've plucked Carson City Morgans, a 1901-P Morgan (that subsequently graded PCGS AU55) and even a 1900 proof Morgan (that PCGS graded Proof-50) from a junk box. I made a post about it when that happened. Do a search for it. It's got pictures attached.

It does happen. Knowledge is king, as is patience. If you have patience and know what to look for, it will happen at some point or another.

messydesk · February 13, 2015 5:14AM

Just to add a little more to this find, it looks like a VAM 19. AU58. Want to double your money?

DIMEMAN · February 13, 2015 5:24AM

I'm not a Morgan expert, but that sure does not look AU. Looks 60-62 to me.

BustHalfBrian · February 13, 2015 5:27AM

<< Just to add a little more to this find, it looks like a VAM 19. AU58. Want to double your money?

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Wow, I didn't even think to VAM the coin. Thanks for that info, John.

Does the variety add any value? I cannot find any recent sales of the Shifted Date in AU/MS.

messydesk · February 13, 2015 5:35AM

VAM 19 does have a premium. Not sure exactly how much, though. Perhaps DennisH's ears are burning enough to chime in on this, as he keeps track of. There is one in the SSDC registry at AU58, two at MS62. It would upgrade many Hit List 40 sets.

shorecoll · February 13, 2015 5:43AM

If the hair over the ear is wear, 58...if it's strike 63. I've seen some dogs in 63 holders, so 62 is harsh if it is MS.

joebb21 · February 13, 2015 5:52AM

looks 58-62

Baley · February 13, 2015 5:59AM

I still think it's strange that there's a concept that goes, "it's either AU58 or MS62" because that sure sounds a lot like MS60 to me.. but folks will say, "no, an MS60 is a coin that's all banged up" to which I'll reply, "not necessarily"

Anyway, this looks like an MS61+ to me.

lostincoins · February 13, 2015 6:15AM

The junk boxes at the B&Ms in my area are actual junk boxes and basically scrap silver. I would say not anything much over a good coin in them.

topstuf · February 13, 2015 6:15AM

MS 60.... the influential submitter's AU.

david3142 · February 13, 2015 6:31AM

I'd call it a nice 62. Would be a great coin for a raw album.

mr1931S · February 13, 2015 9:08AM

Choice About Uncirculated.Too much field chatter for Uncirculated.Nice find,though.

mirabela · February 13, 2015 9:11AM

58 easy, and maybe better.

But -- have you ever tried to find a 96-O with breast feathers like that? That coin is exceptional. Seriously. That's a great catch.

morgansforever · February 13, 2015 9:35AM

Didn't circulate much, nice piece Brian

410a · February 13, 2015 9:45AM

Nice coin AU 55

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD · February 13, 2015 9:47AM

Awesome Find! I'll guess AU58 but only because you found her in actual circulation

Erik

roadrunner · February 13, 2015 9:48AM

58....and just so close to being a 61. Has nice field luster.

coinkat · February 13, 2015 11:34AM

Tough call... 58 is likely and 61 is not impossible

Wabbit2313 · February 13, 2015 11:54AM

I go 58 with no chance at MS. What a nice find!

BustHalfBrian · February 13, 2015 12:15PM

<< 58 easy, and maybe better.

But -- have you ever tried to find a 96-O with breast feathers like that? That coin is exceptional. Seriously. That's a great catch. >>

Looking at AU/MS examples in CoinFacts I am noticing how seldom they're found with full strikes.

I suppose I should share my opinion of the coin before PCGS gives the verdict; I suspect it will grade AU58, but if a coin ever deserved a + it's this one. Although the "wear" I'm seeing could easily be mistaken for cabinet/album friction (like commonly found on Peace Dollars), I don't think PCGS will be so forgiving. Of course I'd be ecstatic with an MS designation, but I feel the chance is slim to none.

I'll update the thread when the results are in, apx. 7-10 days from now.

jcping · February 13, 2015 12:20PM

AU55 to me

Wolf359 · February 13, 2015 12:55PM

If those hairlines are obverse only and not on the reverse MS61. Both sides AU58.

DennisH · February 13, 2015 1:20PM

I'm torn between 55 and 58. But if I sent it in I would expect 55.

Rampage · February 15, 2015 2:03AM

I am in the AU55 crowd, too. Looks very similar to my AU55 1884S. But, it really is too difficult to tell from the pictures. Nothing better than seeing it in hand, which is why it is on its way to PCGS. Good luck and nice find.

Baley · February 15, 2015 2:12AM

<< 58 easy, and maybe better.

But -- have you ever tried to find a 96-O with breast feathers like that? That coin is exceptional. Seriously. That's a great catch. >>

I agree with this, and I'd like one or more of the folks who say AU55 to show us their (or any) better date AU55 Morgan with breast feathers, over the ear detail, and field luster like that 96-0 has