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Are these fake PCGS slabs?

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The coins and holders look real to me. However, there is a problem with the certification numbers. There are not enough digits in them and result in a "That Cert Number was not found in the database." error.

Are all of these fake?

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  • GManGMan Posts: 790 ✭✭
    Looks like the seller covered the last three digits of the cert number for some reason. Coins and slabs look ok to me.
    GMan
  • The seller has blurred out the last few digits in the cert number. If you look closely you can see where the picture was edited.


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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The images of the coins in the slabs have been messed with---pixels are missing, unless I am mistaken. Look carefully to the right of the cert numbers---there are faint rectangles instead of additional digits. The owner evidently doesn't want shoppers to be able to verify the cert numbers.
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  • SCDHunterSCDHunter Posts: 686 ✭✭✭
    I see that now. Thanks!
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭✭
    Look legit to me. Not sure why a seller would not want a buyer to see the cert number in this type of auction.

    When I have multiple of new mint products I do block out part of the cert number and tell people they will get similar quality coins and that we have many of the same items. Hard to do with toners.

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  • The only reason would be to hide the coin's provenance or if the pictures are of another coin.

    In either case, it's not an honest listing. They have something to hide.
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,990 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The only reason would be to hide the coin's provenance or if the pictures are of another coin.

    In either case, it's not an honest listing. They have something to hide. >>


    Most likely the the seller is just overly security conscience.

    Ebay requires cert number be given for graded coins, either in the picture or the description. Listings violate ebay coin policy.

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like the seller covered the last three digits of the cert number for some reason. >>



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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ebay requires cert number be given for graded coins, either in the picture or the description. Listings violate ebay coin policy. >>



    That's what I thought. Kind of defeats the purpose of being able to verify cert numbers when they're "whited-out".

    At one time I believe the cert numbers were not a required part of slabbed coin listings. Blocking out the cert number used to be relatively common on eBay in any event.
  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭
    I've heard there have been problems with wierdos who will take cert numbers from listings like that and add them to their own online registry sets. That creates some grief for seller and buyer.
  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The owner evidently doesn't want shoppers to be able to verify the cert numbers. >>




    Good thing I wrote an app that scans the barcode instead. I scanned them and they all come up with the correct coin # and cert.
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  • I use the same technique to detect fake slabs, as often the barcode doesn't match or is invalid.
    Steve
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  • Question - I looked at PCGS Holder museum and located the correct holder used for my 1891-CC 55 the cert# is ok vs mine but the PCGS holder in the museum has a different barcode shown vs my barcode. Just really wondering if there is only *one barcode per time period/holder and *all grades" within this time period, or if they should vary depending on grade even though the rest of the holder is the same. TIA John

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Trade2much .... Welcome aboard.... I do not have the answer to your question, however, I am sure our slab experts will be along shortly... Cheers, RickO

  • MarkMark Posts: 3,542 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Trade2much I echo @ricko 's welcome. And, a thought: If you do not get an answer to your question in this thread, you might want to start a new thread. I think your question is good and I'd like to see the answer.

    Mark


  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some sellers will hide cert numbers if they have more than one of the same coin for sale.

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thread is too old to be of any use.

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dang! Sucked into another outdated thread.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the barcode encodes: the pcgs coin number, then the grade, then the certification number.

    the certification number alone will be unique. so, the last part of the barcode, and thus the whole barcode, is unique to each holder.

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