Does anyone know why DanBessette and grote15 were banned?

lawnmowerman · February 10, 2015 10:28PM

I tried contacting both of them but their access has been denied.

olb31 · February 10, 2015 10:35PM

PSA is cracking down open habitual offenders?

LarkinCollector · February 10, 2015 10:40PM

Rule #1 "We make the rules; this is not a democracy."

Gemyanks10 · February 10, 2015 10:43PM

Really?? I don't know DanBessette and have never dealt with him, but Tim is one of the most knowledgeable and helpful guys I have talked to and dealt with since I've been on the boards. He has forgotten more than I'll ever know on 70's and early 80's Topps baseball. Anytime I have a question about something that's the guy I go to. I have also purchased quite a bit off of Tim and his service has been impeccable. I hope this is all a mistake and he finds his way back. The boards need more people like Tim if you ask me, and this isn't a snub at Dan as like I said, I don't know him. Tim is a wealth of knowledge and a true collector.

Jimmy

Bosox1976 · February 10, 2015 10:51PM

The spam/drama thread involving a PWCC auction item seemingly listed by another board member has been poofed...

belz · February 10, 2015 10:53PM

I'm really sorry to hear this...If someone does know what happened, please share.

lawnmowerman · February 10, 2015 10:53PM

Both are great guys so hopefully this is a temporary thing

LarkinCollector · February 10, 2015 10:56PM

<< Both are great guys so hopefully this is a temporary thing >>

+1

Gemyanks10 · February 10, 2015 11:03PM

The spam/drama thread involving a PWCC auction item seemingly listed by another board member has been poofed.

I read that entire thread though, and never once did I see either of these two men truly act out of line unless I missed something. Maybe I'm a little biased here because as I said, whether he knows it or not, Tim has been an "unofficial mentor" to me as it pertains to 1970's and 1980's Topps baseball as that is what I collect and have a lot to learn as it pertains to those years. I hope it's just a suspension or a timeout and nothing permanent. Since I've been here, I've seen guys do way worse and they are still around. Tim's longevity alone should get him back.

WhiteTornado · February 10, 2015 11:10PM

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<< Both are great guys so hopefully this is a temporary thing >>

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Let's hope it's just a long timeout of sorts.

BostonAmericans · February 10, 2015 11:15PM

WTH? I only know Tim as one of the gurus on here - I always enjoyed his insights. As for Dan, he helped me out with my 1974 Topps BB set, and is an all around nice guy. I too hope this is temporary.

skrezyna23 · February 10, 2015 11:16PM

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<< Both are great guys so hopefully this is a temporary thing >>

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Let's hope it's just a long timeout of sorts. >>

+3

Good guys. Hope we have them back soon.

perkdog · February 10, 2015 11:16PM

You gotta be kidding me? I didnt know anything about it, Dan is a nice guy but Ive only had minimal contact with him. Tim on the other hand is right up there with Matt as one of my favorites.

Hopefully this isnt anything too crazy.

skrezyna23 · February 10, 2015 11:20PM

On a side note, if you're banned from CU... are you also black listed from submitting cards if you're PSA CC member... or no?

perkdog · February 10, 2015 11:25PM

<< On a side note, if you're banned from CU... are you also black listed from submitting cards if you're PSA CC member... or no? >>

I dont know for sure but I would highly doubt that you cant submit cards, the message boards are a privelidge from CU they dont make any money off of anyone posting.

skrezyna23 · February 10, 2015 11:29PM

I'd assume you're right.

SidePocket · February 10, 2015 11:53PM

It seems counterproductive to ban members like Grote and Bessette if you want a knowledgeable, vibrant message board. If they posted something unacceptable, use a little discretion and tell them so.

bounce · February 10, 2015 11:56PM

Tim is absolutely a great board member. He helped me so many times when he didn't have to. It's really his "fault" I've started collecting unopened a little bit now.

Wish I had seen the other thread so I had some context, but I gotta believe this is a temporary time out.

Both those guys were great contributors, and clearly they had built some goodwill over their time here.

HURRY BACK FELLAS!

Davis · February 10, 2015 11:58PM

Bummer...those guys are a wealth of knowledge.

Dboneesq · February 11, 2015 12:01AM

Let's hope it's only temporary. They are two guys who contribute a LOT to these boards.

I hope The Mod who gave them a time out thinks like this VERY SOON:

lawnmowerman · February 11, 2015 12:05AM

<< On a side note, if you're banned from CU... are you also black listed from submitting cards if you're PSA CC member... or no? >>

Nope.

The only way that happens is if you say some really disparaging stuff about the company or threaten to sue them over petty things.

I know of two, former members that did just that and were blacklisted.

Ironmanfan · February 11, 2015 12:20AM

I had to check to see if it was April 1st

IMF

PaulMaul · February 11, 2015 12:30AM

I'm confused. I just sent Tim a PM and it appeared to go through normally. Would that be the case if he is banned?

LarkinCollector · February 11, 2015 12:33AM

<< I'm confused. I just sent Tim a PM and it appeared to go through normally. Would that be the case if he is banned? >>

Yes, if temporary.

itzagoner · February 11, 2015 12:37AM

<< I'm confused. I just sent Tim a PM and it appeared to go through normally. Would that be the case if he is banned? >>

he won't be able to read PMs until he gets his password back. that's how i recall it when my ID got sent to the pen. he should anticipate a flood of well-wishers.

hopefully, he didn't claim to have flown in a helicopter with Brian Williams. bad mojo there.

aconte · February 11, 2015 12:42AM

Hope they allow them back sooner rather than later.

I only know Tim. He's a wealth of knowledge, straight shooter, good guy, and very pro PSA. Loyal to a fault.

aconte

galaxy27 · February 11, 2015 12:59AM

I actually conjured up a reason as to why I wouldn't want Tim back: he has flogged me in fantasy football for two consecutive years, then proceeded to go back-to-back in our 16-team league. All levity aside, in my 2.5+ I've learned more from him than anyone else -- and it's not even close. As far as I'm concerned, he's the linchpin and needs to be here.

Although I don't know Dan well, his passion for cardboard is infectious. Not sure anyone loves the hobby as much as he does. Not to mention, he has been on the giving end of multiple magnanimous deeds, and there's something to be said for that.

pjb103183 · February 11, 2015 1:04AM

Tim and Dan are both great board members...hope they return soon!

WinPitcher · February 11, 2015 1:50AM

Was Bobby Bammed?

Tim and Dan will be missed that's for sure.

rtimmer · February 11, 2015 1:53AM

I missed that thread but it sounds like I missed something controversial. I did see Tim posting yesterday though and don't know any of the details but I too hope it's something temporary that cooler heads will prevail and their great contributions will return shortly.

yankeeno7 · February 11, 2015 1:57AM

Was it due to that deleted thread about PWCC? Did someone throw a temper tantrum about something said? I dont remember seeing anything there that justified a banning. I sure hope it wasnt due to that thread.

mattyc_collection · February 11, 2015 2:16AM

Hence why Net54 is so awesome.

bobbyw8469 · February 11, 2015 2:50AM

<< Did someone throw a temper tantrum about something said? >>

Sorry. Nothing said by me. I got way thicker skin than that. I will let everyone know that the board is indeed being moderated and not like the "wild wild west" like some other boards are. My best advice is to act professionally, treat others as you yourself would want to be treated, and leave the name calling and personal attacks out of things.

KbKards · February 11, 2015 2:57AM

So what was the result on the original purpose of the other thread. Did the better looking card, in your opinion, 1972 PSA 9 Ryan end up going for a higher price than the inferior one, in your opinion?

Gemyanks10 · February 11, 2015 2:59AM

Hence why Net54 is so awesome.

I've been reading over there more and more. Seems like a great place and have been thinking of signing up.

bobbyw8469 · February 11, 2015 3:03AM

<< So what was the result on the original purpose of the other thread. Did the better looking card, in your opinion, 1972 PSA 9 Ryan end up going for a higher price than the inferior one, in your opinion? >>

No. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

KbKards · February 11, 2015 3:53AM

If I recall there were some different opinions on which card was the "better" looking card in this case. If one was your consignment then you originally bought the card because of qualities you like to see in cards. Sometimes there can be a clear and unanimous winner when comparing 2 cards. But if the cards are close like this comparison seems to have been then it's up to the bidders to decide which one they like better. While you might have had a strong opinion on which one was better it doesn't mean the top bidders agreed.

yankeesman · February 11, 2015 4:04AM

Wow. Dan and Tim are both great guys and great contributors to the boards. Hopefully common sense and cooler heads prevail here.

lahmejoon · February 11, 2015 5:03AM

<< Was it due to that deleted thread about PWCC? Did someone throw a temper tantrum about something said? I dont remember seeing anything there that justified a banning. I sure hope it wasnt due to that thread. >>

+1 Agreed. I don't remember anything in there that warranted banning. Tim getting banned is outrageous.

Brick · February 11, 2015 5:13AM

What am I missing? I don't recall anything they said that would justify their being sent to a time out. If this continues no one will be left here except the alts.

WalterSobchak · February 11, 2015 5:20AM

I had heard these were actually PED suspensions.

WinPitcher · February 11, 2015 5:24AM

<< Sorry. Nothing said by me. I got way thicker skin than that. I will let everyone know that the board is indeed being moderated and not like the "wild wild west" like some other boards are. >>

Thanks for the 'tip'

ReggieCleveland · February 11, 2015 5:59AM

That Grote character had been cruising for a bruising for a while now. It was just a matter of time when you're a loose canon like that guy.

bobbyw8469 · February 11, 2015 6:07AM

<< Thanks for the 'tip' >>

Take it how you want to. It's the truth however. We should all treat each other as you yourself want to be treated. As much as you hate me, you will be hard pressed to find me having to resort to name calling and childish tactics such as that.

swartz1 · February 11, 2015 6:10AM

Why would bobby be banned?

yankeeno7 · February 11, 2015 6:12AM

Im learning a lot today how I should conduct myself. Thank you to all.

grote15 · February 11, 2015 6:16AM

What did I miss??

I just want to thank all of you for your kind words and support. It is very gratifying to read the comments posted here, and I am honestly touched.

Carry on!

charrigan · February 11, 2015 6:18AM

Were you not banned or banned for the shortest time ever?

Brick · February 11, 2015 6:40AM

<< What did I miss??

I just want to thank all of you for your kind words and support. It is very gratifying to read the comments posted here, and I am honestly touched.

Carry on!

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You need to check the rule book. No posting when you are banned!

Big80s · February 11, 2015 6:41AM

Come on, this is silly! This board can't continue without Tim! If these two have been banned - let's hope it's only temporary. I always thought Dan was an undercover moderator - I can't imagine him saying anything ban-worthy.

Big80s · February 11, 2015 6:45AM

Just saw Tim's post. He's back! Total PR stunt, obviously.

Does anyone know why DanBessette and grote15 were banned?

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