2 lincolns toned examples...1 reject and 1 winner

lasvegasteddy · February 5, 2015 12:30PM

enjoy if ya do

first the reject
finding a steel lincoln that isn't reprocessed with color looks like a feat i've yet to achieve (as if i'll ever find one)....pcgs damage code...trueview is lightened just a touch

2nd...the winner is a sp66bn....top pop for bn...which 4 exist...i made and own 3 of them

my best 1966 sms toned example here.....trueview is lightened just a touch

MGLICKER · February 5, 2015 12:48PM

The 1966 is very nice.

FullCameo · February 5, 2015 1:24PM

That 43 is beautiful. Too bad it didn't get in.

Type2 · February 5, 2015 1:34PM

Like i've been told you toss enough stuff on a wall some will stick.... Very cool looking coins.

Swampboy · February 5, 2015 2:07PM

Miracles do happen but that '43 would require more than a miracle to grade there Teddy.

I do like/love your 66.

WingedLiberty1957 · February 5, 2015 3:43PM

Congrats on your fantastic 1966 SP66BN and your 3 others. I own the one in that grade. These are great coins!

TopographicOceans · February 5, 2015 4:08PM

One of the main things they look for on AT are dramatic color shifts, like on the 43.
The color on the 66 flows, from years of storage.

Both look nice

lasvegasteddy · February 5, 2015 4:33PM

thanks everyone

something was wonky with pops on those 1966 sp66bn's as all 3 of mine show pop to be 4
but wingedliberty1957 has one
and robec has one too

pop states 6 exist now
hmmmm

WingedLiberty1957 · February 5, 2015 7:15PM

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WingedLiberty1957 · February 5, 2015 7:20PM

<< Something was wonky with pops on those 1966 sp66bn's ... as all 3 of mine show pop to be 4 ... but WingedLliberty1957 has one and Robec has one too ... pop states 6 exist now ... hmmmm >>

The pcgs population site takes a few days to update after any new coins are graded. I recall in the past seeing the pops jump about two to four days after I get my grades back; not sure how variable that time lag is though.

Broadstruck · February 5, 2015 8:52PM

<< finding a steel lincoln that isn't reprocessed with color looks like a feat i've yet to achieve >>

Some metals just don't tone... Steel rusts, Aluminum stains, White Metal oxidizes & pits.

Still I'm sure someone out there would still like to own your enhanced 43.

ricko · February 5, 2015 9:15PM

<< << finding a steel lincoln that isn't reprocessed with color looks like a feat i've yet to achieve >>
>>

As Broadstruck said.... steel cents do not tarnish....so anything you may 'find' will be artificially enhanced. Cheers, RickO

WingedLiberty1957 · February 5, 2015 9:29PM

<< As Broadstruck said.... steel cents do not tarnish....so anything you may 'find' will be artificially enhanced. Cheers, RickO >>

Have to agree with this (at least based on my experience so far).

Here is one that NGC graded MS67 ...

But when sent to PCGS as a potential Crossover coin, it came back "Genuine - Altered Surfaces (Lacquered)"

And people still ask me why I don't like (don't trust) NGC !

Swampboy · February 5, 2015 10:50PM

My 43-S does have a tinge of pink and is in PCGS 66

Tiny · February 5, 2015 10:53PM

Love the 1943 Cent Bagged or not it's Bee you tea Full

MonsterCoinz · February 5, 2015 11:09PM

Here's mine that didn't make the grade.

SkyMan · February 5, 2015 11:15PM

Sweet looking 1966 SMS Teddy!

lasvegasteddy · February 5, 2015 11:19PM

sweet looking 43's posted in here

1/2 of the darn battle is finding non reprocessed ones to begin with
but you bet
my hunt continues...a steelie with some type of color
but i'm keeping my bagged one...just because

lasvegasteddy · February 6, 2015 12:54AM

<< 

<< << finding a steel lincoln that isn't reprocessed with color looks like a feat i've yet to achieve >>
>>

As Broadstruck said.... steel cents do not tarnish....so anything you may 'find' will be artificially enhanced. Cheers, RickO >>

the ex machinist i am....tosses this out
during coining the top surface of the metal coined...."loses it's integrity"
as anything in the atmosphere becomes impregnated into that top surface...."fused into it" under pressure and heat
most toning isn't below surface....it's on the top surface or patina due to the composition of the gases in the atmosphere
metal would have to be coined and stored in an inert or sterile atmosphere for the surface to remain pure

i get it that pcgs will not accept a toned steel cent
but surely some would fall into a natural state of accidental storage issues reacting to the patina being heat fused with whatever the mint's atmosphere contained

many steels are blued and parkerized which could in effect happen in less then idea storage conditions
not to the extreme of standard industrial bluing or parkerizing...but A mild form of it

say a gunsmith has a couple loose steel cents in a drawer on his work bench
they get exposed over years to bluing chemical as part of the atmosphere they are stored in
they could inherently adapt a blue tint

oh well

AUandAG · February 6, 2015 1:14AM

Just look for pretty rust.

bob

lasvegasteddy · February 6, 2015 1:25AM

<< Just look for pretty rust.

bob

>>

lol....uh as an ex boatswainmate with who never had a crow on my sleeve...i see rust and run

robec · February 6, 2015 2:52AM

One of the other 66BN's

BTW Teddiness, I love your new monster!! Congratulations!

Coppercolor · February 6, 2015 3:51AM

Teddy,
Can't find the image of my 43S, but it got the same treatment from PCGS as your 43P. I like yours very much. Copper is another metal that doesn't often achieve great color but it sure looks good when it does.

So that I can feel like I'm contributing here's another couple theme's on the toning scheme for SMS Lincolns:

copperhunter · February 6, 2015 3:54AM

Wow Jeff!!!

those last two '67s!

MonsterCoinz · February 6, 2015 3:59AM

I think I recognize those last two SMS from a kryptonite auction

AUandAG · February 6, 2015 4:06AM

<< 

<< Just look for pretty rust.

bob

>>

lol....uh as an ex boatswainmate with who never had a crow on my sleeve...i see rust and run

>>

Never heard of any ship sunk by rust.....Loose lips sink ships....

bob

robec · February 6, 2015 4:08AM

Here is another to go along with your 1967's Jeff.

Coppercolor · February 6, 2015 4:09AM

<< I think I recognize those last two SMS from a kryptonite auction >>

Great eye but not quite, sort of! Kryptonite sold several similar sets, but none I saw had this kind of ring or target toning. I did, however, buy one set from Kryptonite at auction and the first 1967 is from that set. But the last two 1967's came straight from the guy who I believe consigned those coins to Shane. So in a way, you were correctish.

<<Edited for Grammar, ugggh>>

Coppercolor · February 6, 2015 4:17AM

<< Here is another to go along with your 1967's Jeff.

>>

WICKED!! And worth a whole $20 in the price guide!!

Teddy way to bring out some great coins in your thread.

lasvegasteddy · February 6, 2015 4:27AM

this will be making it to the grading wizards of oz soon enough

Coppercolor · February 6, 2015 4:55AM

great surfaces Teddy

WingedLiberty1957 · February 6, 2015 5:06AM

Great eye candy in this thread!

Here is my toned PCGS-graded SMS Lincoln set, with the dates in sequence.
Grades are, in order: SP66RB, SP66BN, SP67BN.

lasvegasteddy · February 6, 2015 5:25AM

simply amazing 1965's there you two...congrats and thanks for sharing their beauty

i love yours wingedliberty1957 hands down
but
coppercolor's 1965 is one unique amazing looking example too

2 lincolns toned examples...1 reject and 1 winner

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