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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow - the details on that coin are startling!
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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone put a lot of time into that.

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Someone put a lot of time into that. >>



    Between the tooling and recoloring, I agree. Might this have been a practice coin? It is not the work of a skilled coin doc---just a glance at this piece is enough to set off alarm bells.
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  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Almost looks like a plastic game piece.
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Someone put a lot of time into that. >>



    Someone probably thought they got a deal for $310.....at least until they submit it, or show it to someone who knows coins.


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  • IcollecteverythingIcollecteverything Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭
    Have the diamonds been enhanced? I have seen other IHC's that appeared to have had that done to them. Probably one of the easier places to start?

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  • IcollecteverythingIcollecteverything Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Someone put a lot of time into that. >>



    Between the tooling and recoloring, I agree. Might this have been a practice coin? It is not the work of a skilled coin doc---just a glance at this piece is enough to set off alarm bells. >>




    The seller answered a question and says it came with a card marked "Design Engraved,(Study Piece)".

    Then he tries to pass it off as a possible pattern.

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  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Someone put a lot of time into that. >>



    Between the tooling and recoloring, I agree. Might this have been a practice coin? It is not the work of a skilled coin doc---just a glance at this piece is enough to set off alarm bells. >>




    The seller answered a question and says it came with a card marked "Design Engraved,(Study Piece)".

    Then he tries to pass it off as a possible pattern. >>



    Cute.
    Vplite99
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the looks of this one- reminds me of an engraved hobo nickel or potty dollar. Honestly, I think it's worth the selling price for the artistic merits alone.

    Extremely well done.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thats amazing to see that. wow
  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It makes my 1870 PF67RB Cameo (NGC) look like a poor strike:
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    The hair and the feather quills are too good to be true. And then there is the color........

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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are you sure it isn't a straight-up counterfeit? It would be easier to strike something like that from dies than to hand-engrave it.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,118 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Are you sure it isn't a straight-up counterfeit? It would be easier to strike something like that from dies than to hand-engrave it. >>



    That is my thought. The entire style of the Indian Head bust has subtle differences from the original artwork that makes it look like it was done by a different hand.
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  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    Wow---whoever did that had some great tools and an exceptionally steady hand. That's some remarkable tooling!
  • lostincoinslostincoins Posts: 4,278 ✭
    this helps see the tooling a bit more.

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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Close up it's a no brainer.
    Becky
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,273 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My gut feeling is genuine, messed with. There were a few coin doctors back in the 60's and 70's who did this kind of stuff.
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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    14 days money back, buyer pays return shipping
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A seller with 9495 auctions and 100% feed back describes the coin as uncirculated.......and

    This item could be a Trial Piece such as: J787 Copper- P.E. (A-W 1073)

    The seller might have at least one neg FB after this auction.....image

    The engraver was a real slacker not to have done the reverse too.

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