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When teaching U.S. coin history to the new but scholarly collector.....

.....which date do you begin with?

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1652
    Member: EAC, NBS, C4, CWTS, ANA

    RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'

    CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dateless Wampum.
    MLAeBayNumismatics: "The greatest hobby in the world!"
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭
    1616.

  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    12
    Everything changed in the year 12
  • themasterthemaster Posts: 676 ✭✭✭
    1887
    "If you would know the value of money, go and try to borrow some." Benjamin Franklin
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1616. >>



    Pre Mayflower, Dennis?
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, the Hogge Money (tokens, really) is listed in the Red Book. Were these things accepted elsewhere in Britain's colonies in North America? Can Pistareen chime in?
    If there is no evidence for this, then axe blades, shells, wampum, clay pots, etc. might as well be it for anything without a date. Or perhaps Spanish Colonial coinage for dated coins, and they did widely circulate in the British colonies, practically from the very beginning.
    Member: EAC, NBS, C4, CWTS, ANA

    RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'

    CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]


  • << <i>Dateless Wampum. >>



    Not really U.S. History, the Americas sure but that is analogous to hanging the family photos up of the family who owned your house before you.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,060 ✭✭✭✭✭


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  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    1864, the introduction of In God We Trust
    an SLQ and Ike dollars lover
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If he or she is a scholarly collector,
    why not start from the Civil War !!! image
    Timbuk3
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Depending on the series she/he may be interested in, start with the initial date there... then, as interest expands, add others... Cheers, RickO
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>1616. >>



    Pre Mayflower, Dennis? >>




    Yez, because although the coins were struck for non - North American
    British colonies in the New World, and even though they didn't circulate
    as cash money in what later became the United States, U.S. coin
    collectors have traditionally collected them as part of the "colonial"
    (pre-federal) pantheon of American numismatics.

    Teaching "new but scholarly" collectors about U.S. coin history should
    involve not just the coins themselves, but also the history of organized
    collecting in the United States.

  • NapNap Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2015 and work backwards?

    Otherwise 1792 or 1793. Colonial issues as serious study are a separate field.
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>2015 and work backwards?

    Otherwise 1792 or 1793. Colonial issues as serious study are a separate field. >>



    I like that answer though all have been thoughtful and valid.


  • << <i>1492 >>



    I'd choose 1492 as well because every scholarly person would know that date.

    If I were giving an hour-long presentation, I'd get to 1792/3 in the first five minutes. I'd mention Roanoke (lost colony) and Jamestown (first permanent English colony), the Pine Tree shilling and a few of the other colonial issues. I'd also mention tobacco, wampum, and the dominance of Spanish silver. But all that would be done in five minutes or so. Because I am not a scholar I would use an easy familiar reference such as the Red Book to outline my presentation.

    1492 is good because it also comes full circle in 1892 with the first commemorative coins for fund raising purposes (those CAL gold coins weren't made to raise money), and the coins were minted as souvenirs rather than for circulation and commerce.


  • razzlerazzle Posts: 987 ✭✭✭
    Redtiger, nicely done. Lays out a straightforward plan with significant and readily recognizable markers.
    Markets (governments) can remain irrational longer than an investor can remain solvent.

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