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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    This is exactly the type of crap the Jets would have done...

    Does this guy (Carroll) have a past affiliation with them?

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  • PSASAPPSASAP Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭
    Key to the game was Jeremy Lane breaking his arm after the interception. The Pats then picked on the sub db, which led to their scores.
  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Key to the game was Jeremy Lane breaking his arm after the interception. The Pats then picked on the sub db, which led to their scores. >>




    I dont watch many seattle games but to me they looked flat at the start. Not as bad as the Green Bay game but not exactly fired up .


    The offense was unstoppable in short bursts like at the end of the second quarter but mediocre on many of the drives.

    The defense stopped the run or at least caused the Pats to give up on it but they didn't impress me against the pass.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I think Belichick outflanked Carroll by not calling a time out. For sure if the Pats call time out with 1:06 left Lynch gets the ball three times. By not calling a time out he was only guaranteed two runs.

    This is just one of the reasons Belichick is the greatest coach ever

    MJ >>



    Gonna have to strongly disagree with that one. Belichik messed up not called a timeout cause the Seahawks could have easily pulled off three running plays if they wanted to and if they scored, which was highly likely before the dumbass call, the Pats would have been toast and stuck with two timeouts in their pocket. >>



    I doubt could they could have effectively run Lynch 3 plays with 26 seconds left and one time out. Not likely and Bielichik almost orchestrated Seattles play call

    By letting the clock run down which was obviously the right thing to do he limited Seattles options by one play.

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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>I think Belichick outflanked Carroll by not calling a time out. For sure if the Pats call time out with 1:06 left Lynch gets the ball three times. By not calling a time out he was only guaranteed two runs.

    This is just one of the reasons Belichick is the greatest coach ever

    MJ >>



    Gonna have to strongly disagree with that one. Belichik messed up not called a timeout cause the Seahawks could have easily pulled off three running plays if they wanted to and if they scored, which was highly likely before the dumbass call, the Pats would have been toast and stuck with two timeouts in their pocket. >>



    I doubt could they could have effectively run Lynch 3 plays with 26 seconds left and one time out. Not likely and Bielichik almost orchestrated Seattles play call

    By letting the clock run down which was obviously the right thing to do he limited Seattles options by one play.

    MJ >>



    Seattle wasted 2 timeouts on that drive and caused that themselves . The first one obviously , the second , after "THE CATCH" I'm willing to cut them some slack out of amazement.

  • smallstockssmallstocks Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭✭
    Carroll's own quote:

    "If we score we do, if we don't, then we'll run it in on third and fourth down," he said. "

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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Carroll's own quote:

    "If we score we do, if we don't, then we'll run it in on third and fourth down," he said. " >>




    I don't object to a pass there so much as that pass. Where was number 13 ? He was killing us why isn't he out there in the last 2 minutes? get him over to the outside corner and toss it up high to him where he can either catch it or its safe at least.

    I know that after he was doing so much damage the pats shifted Browner over to cover him but then he seemed to disappear.

    That pass to the outside edge at the end of the first half only took 3 or 4 seconds. They didn't need a 2 second play.
  • PiggsPiggs Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭✭
    Great game to see in person. Being from Seattle covering the game it's a tough one but that was one heck of a play by the Patriot defender. Awesome game and I'll be back covering a Super Bowl for Seattle soon. No crying allowed, congrats to Patriot fans. Doug
  • garnettstylegarnettstyle Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭✭
    This wasn't the first time a Pete Carroll led team lost a championship with 26 seconds left.
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  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    What's the ONLY thing Pats players and fans didn't want to face there? Lynch behind the fullback. And it's not even close.

    The Pats played really well, no doubt. But the Seahawks played well enough and got the ball to the 1 yard line with three shots at it with a heavily favored matchup in running game. They got to the money spot and blew it. All the work they put in all year was betrayed, wasted on the worst play call ever. Even if it had worked, it would have been the worst play call ever.
  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    The Pats expected a run so they were trying to cross them up.

    It just did not work out thats all.

    Win some lose some.
  • seebelowseebelow Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭
    Just heard the Seattle OC trying to blame his WR for not running hard enough to the ball. I think the OC should have never called that play. Even if his heart set on a pass play, not into heavy traffic. How about a fade? ....but you run, run, then run it again.

    I'm not even a Seattle fan but that play call sickens me.

    All that work, sacrifice, preseason, then 18+ games and they're one yard and 20 seconds from a superbowl ring. With lynch.. Will haunt them forever.
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  • PiggsPiggs Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭✭
    Time to move on boys, time to move on.
  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,227 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Time to move on boys, time to move on. >>



    Did Red sox fans move on when Bill Buckner bombed Pearl Harbor?

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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    coaches didn't throw the pass
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>coaches didn't throw the pass >>



    ....or the game for that matter. Armchair quarterbacks love to second guess bad outcomes. Guess it is the compensation that we earn by watching endless hours of beer commercials.
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,533 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Flat out, one of the worst situational play calls I've ever seen in my life, and I've watched football for a long, long time. Wow.

    The Superbowl on the line, and you throw a slant to a special teams player, on the 1-yard line? Really? The Pats must have absolutely LOVED that action. Wow....Amazing.

    What a tremendous play by Butler, to take full advantage.

    Congrats to the Pats, who had a great game. Brady was tough.

    Go Hawks...let's do it next year, and win #50! 'That's the plan, boss'

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  • If he would have caught it! No one would second guess the play call! image
  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    If the pass had been to the player instead of too far in front or him or if the rabbit had not stopped to ---- he might have won the race.

    It's over and time to just forget about it and TRY again next year.

    You will not win every year no matter how hard you try.

    It.s now time for some baseball!
  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And if the Royals would have sent Alex Gordon from 3rd there would have at least been a play at the plate.image IF, IF,IF
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,658 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Time to move on boys, time to move on. >>



    Did Red sox fans move on when Bill Buckner bombed Pearl Harbor?

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  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070


    << <i>

    << <i>Time to move on boys, time to move on. >>



    Did Red sox fans move on when Bill Buckner bombed Pearl Harbor?

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  • lightningboylightningboy Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭
    If he would have caught it! No one would second guess the play call

    I disagree. The play would have still be questioned but it would not have the after life that it does now. I have seen many "stupid" play calls work out through luck, but that doesn't change that it was an error in the thought process.

    Not to continue beating a dead horse, but the smarter sequence of play calls would have been run on 2nd then call timeout if you don't score. That would let you throw on 3rd, either score, incomplete or int (either way clock not a factor). Then on 4th run or pass.
  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the better option on 2nd down would be a read option for Wilson moving to his right, with Lynch also going that way. Give Wilson a bunch of options - hand off, keep, or throw to somebody. Or just do a standard play fake rollout. Either of those would be fine. And then do whatever on 3rd and 4th.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If he would have caught it! No one would second guess the play call

    I disagree. The play would have still be questioned but it would not have the after life that it does now. I have seen many "stupid" play calls work out through luck, but that doesn't change that it was an error in the thought process.

    Not to continue beating a dead horse, but the smarter sequence of play calls would have been run on 2nd then call timeout if you don't score. That would let you throw on 3rd, either score, incomplete or int (either way clock not a factor). Then on 4th run or pass. >>



    really? People would second guess a Superbowl winning play? No way. There would be incessant talk of its brilliance, how the Patriots expected Lynch to run the ball so they had their goal line package in there and the Seahawks took advantage of the situation with a matchup they wanted. Coaching staff would be considered geniuses that outflanked one of the best in history (BB)
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i> but the smarter sequence of play calls would have been run on 2nd then call timeout if you don't score. That would let you throw on 3rd, either score, incomplete or int (either way clock not a factor). Then on 4th run or pass. >>



    Assuming that a fumble did not occur on the second down run. A lot of things happen on a football field and though I would have handed the ball to ML as well as many others, I am not going to second guess the Seattle call.
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