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staple scratched 1916 mercury dime pcgs ms64fsb on ebay

how does this sneak through?...maybe that 1914 buffalo nickel would grade too?
ebay #191484142833

is it perhaps because of the size of a dime....this may not of been as apparent as a 19" monitor closeup?
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    It took me a minute to finally see it! That mark is a no issue.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That would not be a concern for most collectors.... Cheers, RickO
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a small mark/scratch for certain but doesn't look like it's from a staple which tends to be deeper, longer, and shiny. The graders probably saw it and factored it in when assigning the grade. It's an old scratch that's toned and fairly well hidden so they decided not to consider it a significant enough problem to require a details grade.

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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When more than 15X magnification is used to evaluate a coin, even trivial marks or other imperfections will look meaningful.
    This mark is light and hidden, and most would not see it using a naked eye. It's acceptable.
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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When more than 15X magnification is used to evaluate a coin, even trivial marks or other imperfections will look meaningful.
    This mark is light and hidden, and most would not see it using a naked eye. It's acceptable. >>



    yeah i was tending to think it fell along these lines as referenced with last sentence there
    looking at again too
    i can see how a staple scratch is more pronounced too

    it was just something that caught my eyes on a 19" monitor
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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's put our coins with staples. What could possibly go wrong?


    God I hate staples.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,594 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Let's put our coins with staples. What could possibly go wrong?


    God I hate staples. >>



    Staples are not the problem unless one doesn't know how to remove a coin from a 2X2 stapled holder. Just puncture the window around the outside of the coin with a toothpick and bend the holder over a padded surface. The window will tear and the coin will fall out.

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    I would say the coin was net graded as market acceptable simply because the scratch does not have high ridges and is in the same tone as the rest of the coin. WEithout the scratch and considering the reverse I could see this dime being a grade higher. You should see your image on my 27inch high res screen. I have to remind myself all the time that I am looking at coins at much higher magnification than what is used for grading. What I usually do is reduce the image to 5-8x magnification and look at it and if something is glaring then I pass on that coin.
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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It took me a minute to finally see it! That mark is a no issue. >>


    ditto, I can't blame them
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would be an issue when grading this coin a 65 or better.

    Very well hidden old scratch among the cap feathers. If it were aligned with those feathers it might be invisible to many.

    It's also only a 1916-P Merc. It probably got a pretty quick look. If this were a 1916-D that obverse would have been scanned a lot more thoroughly. Not saying it would change the assigned grade, but it could since the grade risk liability on those 2 coins is vastly different
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    FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    Would it be possible to push counterfeits by puuting a staple mark on them? Possibly people could be so wrapped up in the
    defect they might ignore the fact it's not genuine?

    Just wondering.
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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry but even when shrunk to dime size that scratch is in a prime central focal area. No way should that have straight graded a 64...and I can't believe that anyone here would be happy with this coin at that grade and price level. Someone got a gift.

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    mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Count me among those who don't like it. It's otherwise a nice coin, but I'd never be able to not see that mark -- and I'd expect to have to discount it heavily when selling.
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    CuKevinCuKevin Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It took me a minute to finally see it! That mark is a no issue. >>



    I don't think it's a staple scratch, it isn't shiny. If that scratch was NEW and SHINY, then it could no grade for staple scratch.

    What we see in the image is perfectly acceptable for a straight graded coin. Otherwise no coin would straight grade. They'd all be details for having some flaw such as contact marks, wear, etc.
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    aclocoacloco Posts: 955 ✭✭✭
    If this coin was a low value coin, the slab would be labeled as "damaged" or "struck through error"....and graded accordingly.


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    veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    The scratch is not an issue at that grade level, and I would imagine that most buyers would be happy with it.
    I wouldn't like it as a 66 or even 65, but for a 64, what's the big deal?

    It's lost in the the feather detail of an image that's scaled up to to the size of a planet.
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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not that bad if it fits into your budget.

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,186 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not that bad if it fits into your budget. >>

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