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Traveling Suspects Arrested

pufferpuffer Posts: 535
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Two suspects have been arrested for selling fake Suisse Pamp carded gold bars(2.5gm, 5gm,10gm and 1 ounce) at a coin shop in Greenwood, Indiana. Search of the suspects vehicle revealed multiple identification cards, business and pamphlets from different coin shops and an additional 250 fake gold bars and coins. Based upon receipts located in the vehicle the suspects had been selling the fake gold to shops in Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee and Indiana since September, 2014.

The suspects were driving a silver Ford Focus with Missouri license plates. The suspects are being held for Theft by Deception.


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Aaron Taylor
Western Union, IL

Second suspect was identified as Nelson Hernandez (No photo available) alias Benjamin Wade.

Anyone having been in contact with either of these subjects should contact:

Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org



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Comments

  • seebelowseebelow Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭
    Thats all that they can be charged with? I would think and hope much more. What's the maximum penalty for that? Knowing today's sentencing, probation, fine and time served. Arghh.
    Interested in higher grade vintage cards. Aren't we all. image
  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭
    Ain't no different then sellin fake purses...
    keceph `anah
  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    Ain't no different then sellin fake purses

    Why's that? Is it because the items were sold "in person"? Would it be a bigger crime if the items had been sold thru the internet and gone thru USPS? Not being a smart alec, Just trying to learn the differences and why it's a light penalty the way they did it.
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What Shop was this at?

    GrandAm image
    GrandAm :)
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Becoming more prevalent..... thieves travel from city to city and unload the fake stuff and move right on...Cheers, RickO
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This report on the above was bulk mailed on the dealer-to-dealer network by a dealer in Indiana:

    Buyer beware, see below. These suspects are currently being held in the Johnson County, Indiana jail. If you have purchased any carded Suisse Pamp gold bars, 2.5 g, 5 g, 10 g or 1 ounce, between September 2014 to January 2015 from Arron Taylor of West Union, IL check them out, open them and test them. These guys were arrested in our store/parking lot on Tuesday 1/6/2015. The story posted by Numismatic Crimes is below. If you have any info or think you may have purchased these, please contact the Greenwood Police Department or Doug from Numismatic Crimes as per the contact info below.

    Two suspects have been arrested for selling fake Suisse Pamp carded gold bars(2.5gm, 5gm,10gm and 1 ounce) at a coin shop in Greenwood, Indiana. Search of the suspects vehicle revealed multiple identification cards, business and pamphlets from different coin shops and an additional 250 fake gold bars and coins. Based upon receipts located in the vehicle the suspects had been selling the fake gold to shops in Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee and Indiana since September, 2014.

    The suspects were driving a silver Ford Focus with Missouri license plates. The suspects are being held for Theft by Deception. The first suspect is Arron Taylor, of Western Union, IL presenting an IL ID card. The second suspect never came into the store, but was identified as Nelson Hernandez alias Benjamin Wade.

    Anyone having been in contact with either of these subjects should contact the Greenwood Police Department, Detective Aaron Hagist at 317-882-9191 ext 177, or Doug Davis of Numismatic Crimes at 817-723-7231 or Doug@numismaticcrimes.org.
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess they could be charged with:
    Fraud, Theft, Interstate transportation
    of conterfeit goods, etc. I'm sure there's
    a bunch of charges that could be filed
    against them.
    Timbuk3
  • pufferpuffer Posts: 535
    Federal charges would carry more weight if a tough prosecutor wanted to make an example of them. The old motto on Colonial currency--"to counterfeit is death".
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Printing the cards is easy

    Do not trust the card

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since it's a non-violent crime they'll get a slap on the wrist.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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